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<blockquote data-quote="kennew142" data-source="post: 4312760" data-attributes="member: 18490">On the other hand, you could try role-playing and build the character that best fits your concept - instead of trying to squeeze every point of combat advantage out of the character. I can't imagine ever choosing a character race based on what bonuses it gave me to what stat.I've only had a chance to play two of the five 4e characters I've built. Neither has an 18 in anything, and neither of them has been even remotely ineffective in combat.I'm not saying there is anything wrong with character optimization, if that's how you like to play. But it's a little arrogant to assume that everyone else must play the same way. For 30+ years, lots of players have been making characters based on character concept and background instead of power/optimization. Beginning the game with a +3 bonus to hit from stats doesn't make a character too weak or ineffective. It's only one point less than having an 18 in your primary stat - that is, +1 to hit and +1 to damage. Like everything else in character creation, it's a choice.I will say that the OP is wrong. No one has to have an 18 in their primary stat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kennew142, post: 4312760, member: 18490"] On the other hand, you could try role-playing and build the character that best fits your concept - instead of trying to squeeze every point of combat advantage out of the character. I can't imagine ever choosing a character race based on what bonuses it gave me to what stat. I've only had a chance to play two of the five 4e characters I've built. Neither has an 18 in anything, and neither of them has been even remotely ineffective in combat. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with character optimization, if that's how you like to play. But it's a little arrogant to assume that everyone else must play the same way. For 30+ years, lots of players have been making characters based on character concept and background instead of power/optimization. Beginning the game with a +3 bonus to hit from stats doesn't make a character too weak or ineffective. It's only one point less than having an 18 in your primary stat - that is, +1 to hit and +1 to damage. Like everything else in character creation, it's a choice. I will say that the OP is wrong. No one [B]has[/B] to have an 18 in their primary stat. [/QUOTE]

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