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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5610671" data-attributes="member: 4937">This is a very important point.  One of the reasons you don't dump stat charisma or intelligence below that of slightly below normal is that the resulting character can be very unfun to play.  I'm not the sort of DM that let's a power gamer play his 3 Int character as a genious, nor am I the sort that plays with DMs that encourage that sort of thing.  The comicly inept but incredibly lucky schtick can only be mined so far (where the dumb character solves the puzzle by leaning against the wall and accidently opening the secret door).  Ultimately, characters with intelligences on par with smart dogs and charisma on par with a lizard with a skin disease just aren't that fun to play.  Their character excludes them from a very large portion of the sort of games I'm interested in playing.On of the more interesting cases of this I've observed was the power gamer in a WEG Star Wars game who picked a wookie for the 6D starting strength, only to realize after the game started that he could only communicate in grunts and growls to most of the party and virtually all NPCs.  This excluded him from the sort of leadership position he would have normally taken in the group.  A wookie was a potentially amusing RP oppurtunity, but it was far better suited to the wacky/cut up sort than it was to a power gamer.  This is probably true of dump stating mental or social abilities generally.  It doesn't in fact get the power gamer what most power gamers actually want from their character.</blockquote>

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