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<blockquote data-quote="occam" data-source="post: 8837643" data-attributes="member: 39815"><p>I appreciate your desire to interpret SupergeekMike's arguments charitably. And I don't have a problem with a lot of the video. If he had kept it to, "Hey, I found this rule that existed in old versions of D&D which don't appear in later editions, but I think it'd be interesting to explore the consequences of using such a rule", I don't think there would've been any pushback. But that's not what he did.</p><p></p><p>First of all, the YouTube video is entitled "How A Forgotten D&D Rule Shaped the <em>Entire</em> Old-School Gaming Culture" (emphasis mine). He's clearly expressing the notion, before one even watches the video, that this one rule defined all old-school gaming. He then goes on to describe what sounds like a universal play style, lacking any qualifiers such as "some", "perhaps", etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Around 8:39, he literally says "This is like the Rosetta Stone for early D&D games."</p><p></p><p></p><p>A little aside the topic, but I don't think this is necessarily the case. At least, given how rarely this rule was followed IME and in the experience of other older gamers who've posted to this thread, I don't think it's qualitatively more unwieldy or irrelevant now than it was then.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Let's say that I posted something in which I claimed that after watching a TikTok video or two, I suddenly realized that GenZ-ers were mining Bitcoin to pay for online concerts featuring their favorite K-pop groups, and that this fundamentally changes our understanding of future political and economic trends due to Bitcoin-funded K-pop shaping the entire youth culture. Would you say that people annoyed by my observation with claims that I was grossly over-generalizing should just take into account that I was excited by finding out about Bitcoin and the popularity of Korean music in western youth culture? Wouldn't it have been better if I had just said, "Hey, did you know a lot of teens and twenty-somethings like K-pop these days? Let's talk about K-pop!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="occam, post: 8837643, member: 39815"] I appreciate your desire to interpret SupergeekMike's arguments charitably. And I don't have a problem with a lot of the video. If he had kept it to, "Hey, I found this rule that existed in old versions of D&D which don't appear in later editions, but I think it'd be interesting to explore the consequences of using such a rule", I don't think there would've been any pushback. But that's not what he did. First of all, the YouTube video is entitled "How A Forgotten D&D Rule Shaped the [I]Entire[/I] Old-School Gaming Culture" (emphasis mine). He's clearly expressing the notion, before one even watches the video, that this one rule defined all old-school gaming. He then goes on to describe what sounds like a universal play style, lacking any qualifiers such as "some", "perhaps", etc. Around 8:39, he literally says "This is like the Rosetta Stone for early D&D games." A little aside the topic, but I don't think this is necessarily the case. At least, given how rarely this rule was followed IME and in the experience of other older gamers who've posted to this thread, I don't think it's qualitatively more unwieldy or irrelevant now than it was then. Let's say that I posted something in which I claimed that after watching a TikTok video or two, I suddenly realized that GenZ-ers were mining Bitcoin to pay for online concerts featuring their favorite K-pop groups, and that this fundamentally changes our understanding of future political and economic trends due to Bitcoin-funded K-pop shaping the entire youth culture. Would you say that people annoyed by my observation with claims that I was grossly over-generalizing should just take into account that I was excited by finding out about Bitcoin and the popularity of Korean music in western youth culture? Wouldn't it have been better if I had just said, "Hey, did you know a lot of teens and twenty-somethings like K-pop these days? Let's talk about K-pop!" [/QUOTE]
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