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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 9374046" data-attributes="member: 6677017"><p>Makes sense. Two important points to consider.</p><p></p><p>Eldritch Knight is not a 5e analog of the AD&D fighter/mage. It utterly fails at that due to it being limited to low level spells. </p><p></p><p>(Because neither the Eldritch Knight nor the Bladesinger really hit that spot for me I made my own Warrior-Mage class with a few subclasses to evoke that classic feel.)</p><p></p><p>But the Eldritch Knight is a Fighter, and must be compared to other fighters. Battle Master is a good baseline for that.</p><p></p><p>A major element of its functionality is those SCAG weapon attack cantrips. I don't get a lot out of booming blade, because of the reasons you noted. I think its mostly used tactically. But green-flame blade is incredible. Just math out how it scales. If you have an additional adjacent foe (which is most of the time if you are wading into battle and the DM is throwing multiple foes at you like 5e was designed for) you are always better off using green-flame blade for 2 weapon attacks +scaling primary target damage +scaling secondary target damage, than just making 3 attacks. And depending on your individual setup and gear, you may still be more effective that way at 20th level (though against a single target you would skip that and just make your 4 attacks).</p><p></p><p>Quick example of at-will damage output of a sword and board 11th level Eldritch Knight with no magic gear.</p><p></p><p>3 Attacks: 1d8+5+2(fighting style) x3 = 34.5 damage</p><p>Green-flame Blade + War Magic: 1d8+5+2(fighting style) x2 +2d8 GFB = 32 damage to primary target, plus 2d8+3 (let's say your Int is only 16) = 12 damage to a secondary target, for a total of 56.5 damage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 9374046, member: 6677017"] Makes sense. Two important points to consider. Eldritch Knight is not a 5e analog of the AD&D fighter/mage. It utterly fails at that due to it being limited to low level spells. (Because neither the Eldritch Knight nor the Bladesinger really hit that spot for me I made my own Warrior-Mage class with a few subclasses to evoke that classic feel.) But the Eldritch Knight is a Fighter, and must be compared to other fighters. Battle Master is a good baseline for that. A major element of its functionality is those SCAG weapon attack cantrips. I don't get a lot out of booming blade, because of the reasons you noted. I think its mostly used tactically. But green-flame blade is incredible. Just math out how it scales. If you have an additional adjacent foe (which is most of the time if you are wading into battle and the DM is throwing multiple foes at you like 5e was designed for) you are always better off using green-flame blade for 2 weapon attacks +scaling primary target damage +scaling secondary target damage, than just making 3 attacks. And depending on your individual setup and gear, you may still be more effective that way at 20th level (though against a single target you would skip that and just make your 4 attacks). Quick example of at-will damage output of a sword and board 11th level Eldritch Knight with no magic gear. 3 Attacks: 1d8+5+2(fighting style) x3 = 34.5 damage Green-flame Blade + War Magic: 1d8+5+2(fighting style) x2 +2d8 GFB = 32 damage to primary target, plus 2d8+3 (let's say your Int is only 16) = 12 damage to a secondary target, for a total of 56.5 damage. [/QUOTE]
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