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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 9266041" data-attributes="member: 63">If Batman decided to play baseball because his poor stepmother got insulted at a baseball game once and Bruce struggles with anger, and wants to beat up the guy, but decides instead to try to dedicate his victory to her in a big baseball game in order to spite all the meanies in baseball stadiums . . . that's kinda not Batman. But it also kinda is still matching the core of his character.---There's a fan edit of Man of Steel called &quot;Man of Steel: A Symbol of Hope.&quot; It mostly just cuts out the stuff where Clark is a jerk (destroying a semi-truck and ruining a man's livelihood because the guy was rude to him) or where his dad is an awful teacher of morals, and trims a few scenes down where in the original cut it looks like Clark is able to intervene but just doesn't for some inexplicable reason, and broadly has less &quot;disaster porn.&quot;And it uses more of the heroic Hans Zimmer theme.And yeah, it has a brighter color grading.But it's the first things that make the big difference. It turned the movie from, like, a bummer, to a genuinely compelling study of the challenge of being optimistic, of trying to make a positive difference, but still feeling like you can't fix things. It felt more hopeful, and it became honestly my favorite Superman movie.That's what I want out of Superman. His defining character trait - the thing you have to get right - is a solid moral core that inspires others to be good.(And Batman's defining character trait is insisting on helping others even though he has a core of darkness, because he doesn't want others to suffer like he did.)Anyway, I expect the thread on the best Aquaman to be a lot shorter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 9266041, member: 63"] If Batman decided to play baseball because his poor stepmother got insulted at a baseball game once and Bruce struggles with anger, and wants to beat up the guy, but decides instead to try to dedicate his victory to her in a big baseball game in order to spite all the meanies in baseball stadiums . . . that's kinda not Batman. But it also kinda is still matching the core of his character. --- There's a fan edit of Man of Steel called "Man of Steel: A Symbol of Hope." It mostly just cuts out the stuff where Clark is a jerk (destroying a semi-truck and ruining a man's livelihood because the guy was rude to him) or where his dad is an awful teacher of morals, and trims a few scenes down where in the original cut it looks like Clark is [I]able[/I] to intervene but just doesn't for some inexplicable reason, and broadly has less "disaster porn." And it uses more of the heroic Hans Zimmer theme. And yeah, it has a brighter color grading. But it's the first things that make the big difference. It turned the movie from, like, a bummer, to a genuinely compelling study of the challenge of being optimistic, of trying to make a positive difference, but still feeling like you can't fix things. It felt more hopeful, and it became honestly my favorite Superman movie. That's what I want out of Superman. His defining character trait - the thing you have to get right - is a solid moral core that inspires others to be good. (And Batman's defining character trait is insisting on helping others even though he has a core of darkness, because he doesn't want others to suffer like he did.) Anyway, I expect the thread on the best Aquaman to be a lot shorter. [/QUOTE]

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