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<blockquote data-quote="roguerouge" data-source="post: 4507373" data-attributes="member: 13855"><p>Another thing to consider is that coming back after raise dead is not the end of your problems. Consider the lowly fighter. He's in melee, doing his job, taking damage, and getting knocked out every time. Then he dies, due to a crit, but the wizard has a panic attack at the thought of going into a combat without the fighter. So they raise him.</p><p></p><p>This fighter, lagging in level, still faces the most attack rolls, but now is even less able to protect himself, has less offensive capability, and has less hit points. Now every combat, he's in way over his head. Eventually, a couple of months later in RL, our fighter dies again.</p><p></p><p>So, now the player of the fighter has a choice: he can bring the fighter back (at two level behind) and get back on the fail train, or he can bring in a new character, having wasted time watching his old character get abused for several months as a penalty for falling behind the rest of the party. The only problem with the latter solution? The party needs a melee guy, so the players beg him to play one "for the good of the party." So he designs a new melee fighter. Wash, rinse, repeat.</p><p></p><p>It's not just the harm to the story or to the narrative. It's not just sitting in time out during that session. It's that for some character types, the penalty leads to months of being the weakest link, hoping that you'll eventually catch up. </p><p></p><p>I just went through this "jail time" period of lagging a level behind as a melee character. For the last two months, I've done every combat in fighting defensively or total defense. It was very frustrating to go entire combats with one hit, while waiting for the killing blow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="roguerouge, post: 4507373, member: 13855"] Another thing to consider is that coming back after raise dead is not the end of your problems. Consider the lowly fighter. He's in melee, doing his job, taking damage, and getting knocked out every time. Then he dies, due to a crit, but the wizard has a panic attack at the thought of going into a combat without the fighter. So they raise him. This fighter, lagging in level, still faces the most attack rolls, but now is even less able to protect himself, has less offensive capability, and has less hit points. Now every combat, he's in way over his head. Eventually, a couple of months later in RL, our fighter dies again. So, now the player of the fighter has a choice: he can bring the fighter back (at two level behind) and get back on the fail train, or he can bring in a new character, having wasted time watching his old character get abused for several months as a penalty for falling behind the rest of the party. The only problem with the latter solution? The party needs a melee guy, so the players beg him to play one "for the good of the party." So he designs a new melee fighter. Wash, rinse, repeat. It's not just the harm to the story or to the narrative. It's not just sitting in time out during that session. It's that for some character types, the penalty leads to months of being the weakest link, hoping that you'll eventually catch up. I just went through this "jail time" period of lagging a level behind as a melee character. For the last two months, I've done every combat in fighting defensively or total defense. It was very frustrating to go entire combats with one hit, while waiting for the killing blow. [/QUOTE]
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