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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 4093062" data-attributes="member: 834">I'm quite happy with this though there's a handful of situations where I'd rule that the target has to die (or more rarely survive even if the PC wants him dead).Not that many situations, mind you.  Even if a PC hits a target with a sword and reduce him to zero we can describe the last blow as an hilt strike to the face, for example.  That's the good old Feng Shui method and I'm fine with it.  And certainly a magic missile can stun.But if the PC chose to use alchemical fire or a fireball for the last damage, he pretty much chose that his victim would die of severe third degree burn.  Similarly, if he chose to push a thug off the roof of a 30 feet building in order to inflict the last 3D6 of damage, he pretty much chose that the victim would die IMO.  On the other end of the spectrum, if the target is pushed off a cliff and falls into the sea, receiving massive damage, whether or not he dies is also my choice as a DM.  If the PC really wanted the guy dead he just had to make sure the last blow was a sword strike that took of his head, an Edritch blast that punched a hole throug his chest or whatever.---Personnally, I want choice to have consequence.  If you choose to use the big guns, you choose that the victim probably won't survive.  If you choose to use a fireball to win a bar fight, I'm sending the city guard after you for mass murder!  To be fair, I should probably apply the same reasoning to some martial maneuver.  Like, when the fighter does that daily power that does almost triple her normal damage while using a axe, it'd be kind of silly to insist she isn't going for a kill (and unfair to the wizard).I'm eager to see the full PHB to see what, if any, houserule will be needed to satisfy me on that front.</blockquote>

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