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"Your Class is Not Your Character": Is this a real problem?
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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7921136" data-attributes="member: 6880599"><p>So @<a href="https://www.enworld.org/goto/post?id=7921089" target="_blank">PsyzhranV2</a> was saying sure magic wielding fighter with no armor and magic sword that can stop and redirect ranged projectile at the person shooting at the is a Monk Kensai. In fact, the <a href="https://media.wizards.com/2019/dnd/downloads/UA-PsychicSoulPsionics.pdf" target="_blank">Psychic Warrior</a> Fighter Class UA by Wizards of the coast was made with Jeremy Crawford saying "<a href="https://youtu.be/MQiUzt3HfVM?t=57" target="_blank">More Darth Vader</a>". That link to it in his own words.</p><p></p><p>Wanting to play a Kensai Monk/Wizard mutli-class with a magic flaming sword, mage hand, jump spell, ,telekinesis spell, haste spell, and who can stop and redirect projectiles back at attackers (monk Deflect Missiles) as targets stylized after a Jedi like order is a more realistic response. Just as I have seen players want to come to the table with an Artillerist Artificer with an urban bounty hunter back ground basically playing a character based of the Mandalorian series. We allowed it. The player was not called a Mandalorian and the GM used Criticial Role's "Slayer's Take" as template for them to take their back ground front and center. A monk with magic could easily be played as a sect of mystics <strong>BASED</strong> of the Jedi <strong>but still well with in the fantiacy world of D&D</strong>. In part because STARWARS is actually fantasy in a science fiction setting not true science fiction. Gorge Lucas has said so many times. It is not abnormaly for players to want to play a character created form any number of other non-D&D fantacy sources. Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, STAR WARS, the Wheel of time series, The Shannara Chronicles, Game of thrones, He-man, or even Power rangers with there dino mounts and improved Pact of the Blade Weapons. <u>I don't know a single GM that never steels from sources out side of D&D</u>.</p><p></p><p>I read your posts and actually think @<a href="https://www.enworld.org/goto/post?id=7921089" target="_blank">PsyzhranV2</a>'s reply makes since. Players can deviate from the normal style of a D&D character without pulling form another universe. So you example does seem like a jaded extreme response that does not reflect the topic of playing "Your Class is Not Your Character" style. You have moved beyond that to "I am playing a different game at your table and you have no choice" that is huge leap from the argument from the argument your trying to contrast. I don't see player "bulling GM's" this way. Arguing for a style of character based on something else, though is both common and expected.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7921136, member: 6880599"] So @[URL='https://www.enworld.org/goto/post?id=7921089']PsyzhranV2[/URL] was saying sure magic wielding fighter with no armor and magic sword that can stop and redirect ranged projectile at the person shooting at the is a Monk Kensai. In fact, the [URL='https://media.wizards.com/2019/dnd/downloads/UA-PsychicSoulPsionics.pdf']Psychic Warrior[/URL] Fighter Class UA by Wizards of the coast was made with Jeremy Crawford saying "[URL='https://youtu.be/MQiUzt3HfVM?t=57']More Darth Vader[/URL]". That link to it in his own words. Wanting to play a Kensai Monk/Wizard mutli-class with a magic flaming sword, mage hand, jump spell, ,telekinesis spell, haste spell, and who can stop and redirect projectiles back at attackers (monk Deflect Missiles) as targets stylized after a Jedi like order is a more realistic response. Just as I have seen players want to come to the table with an Artillerist Artificer with an urban bounty hunter back ground basically playing a character based of the Mandalorian series. We allowed it. The player was not called a Mandalorian and the GM used Criticial Role's "Slayer's Take" as template for them to take their back ground front and center. A monk with magic could easily be played as a sect of mystics [B]BASED[/B] of the Jedi [B]but still well with in the fantiacy world of D&D[/B]. In part because STARWARS is actually fantasy in a science fiction setting not true science fiction. Gorge Lucas has said so many times. It is not abnormaly for players to want to play a character created form any number of other non-D&D fantacy sources. Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, STAR WARS, the Wheel of time series, The Shannara Chronicles, Game of thrones, He-man, or even Power rangers with there dino mounts and improved Pact of the Blade Weapons. [U]I don't know a single GM that never steels from sources out side of D&D[/U]. I read your posts and actually think @[URL='https://www.enworld.org/goto/post?id=7921089']PsyzhranV2[/URL]'s reply makes since. Players can deviate from the normal style of a D&D character without pulling form another universe. So you example does seem like a jaded extreme response that does not reflect the topic of playing "Your Class is Not Your Character" style. You have moved beyond that to "I am playing a different game at your table and you have no choice" that is huge leap from the argument from the argument your trying to contrast. I don't see player "bulling GM's" this way. Arguing for a style of character based on something else, though is both common and expected. [/QUOTE]
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