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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7922825" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I generally don't like just saying people are wrong, but I can't see what point you think you are making here. What lore am I changing?I'm not even trying to be obtuse here, you are saying I'm changing how rage works, but I'm explicitly not. The knight still "come alive in the chaos of combat" they still "enter a berserk state where rage takes over, giving them superhuman strength and resilience " I have changed none of that. All I've changed is the part about hating cities, and feeling like polite society is a sign of weakness. The Barbarian doesn't have to be a tribal warrior, does it? Do only people who do not build roads have the capability of raging? How does that make any sense? If a tribe of nomadic humans settle down and Ungrak plants a garden, do all the barbarians of that tribe suddenly lose their powers? Does the Zealot following the gods of war and battle suddenly lose their blessings because their sister who traveled across the sea learns medicine? Because, if the culture of the society determines whether or not my character can rage and fight, instead of the individual... then if my society changes, I lose my abilities. Or, are you trying to say that someone raised on an estate, can't muster the primal urges neccessary? Does something about good food and fine clothing remove the capability of rage? IF you dress a barbarian in silks are they powerless? This all seems ridiculous, but those are the details I've changed. A nobleman, with the title of knight, but still having the rage of a barbarian. Yet, you are telling me I am fundamentally changing how rage works, that rage cannot manifest in a nobleman. Why? Why must a barbarian be a tribal warrior who eschews civilization?Sure, only one type of ipad. The ipad, the ipad II, 3, 4, 5, 6 ,7 surface, surface pro, pro, mini, air, And those of course are completely unlike the Nook, The Kindle, Kindle Fire, Kindle Fire XL, and whatever tablet chrome has released. And what is wearing heavy armor if not a skill? You can even take a feat chain to get it, or be a mountain dwarf. In fact, a valor bard can channel eldritch energies into their sword, create a healing aura and wear heavy armor. Your argument falls apart because there are always multiple ways to get to the same place. And, if their are multiple mechanical ways, why can't there be multiple thematic ways to reach the same goal. After all, lots of superheroes who can fly, shoot energy beams, and are super strong and tough, and a lot of them do not have the same explanation for their powers. Why must DnD fantasy be so strict as to allow only one possible interpretation of a cleric, or a bard?That was me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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