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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7922876" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Since it was my barbarian concept, I'll step up to the plate. I am not conflating the barbarian class with the fighter class. I am taking a noble, who is a barbarian. Just like I could take a barbarian who is a sage (did that one too, for an old orc shaman who was traveling the world to learn about the outsiders and help protect his tribe) or one who is a charlatan. The Barbarian I actually did this with was a Knight, protected by the Spirits of his Ancestors (Ancestral Guardian Barbarian). The family had started as more &quot;traditional&quot; barbarians a few hundred years ago, but by helping a conquering king forge his kingdom, they earned land, titles, and became sworn protectors of the crown. And they still fought like barbarians, I didn't refluff a single class feature. I simply applied them to a character who was not illiterate, ill-mannered, or naked. In fact, as a human, I made sure his first feat was shield master, which I used to great effect while raging.I changed no rules. Nothing. Unless you can find something that says in the rules that Barbarians are not allowed to take the noble background, or take the feat shield master, or use their medium armor proficiency that the rules grant them. So, despite the &quot;rules&quot; saying that barbarians must be savages from the wilderness who spit upon society, the rules also allow me to take a high society character, and use the barbarian class. Just like I can make a wizard who is an entertainerA bard who is a pirateA rogue who is a priestA Druid who is a soldierA ranger who is a spyA monk who is a charlatanA paladin who is a criminalThe rules allow for this. Unless you can quote a section of the PHB that says different</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7922876, member: 6801228"] Since it was my barbarian concept, I'll step up to the plate. I am not conflating the barbarian class with the fighter class. I am taking a noble, who is a barbarian. Just like I could take a barbarian who is a sage (did that one too, for an old orc shaman who was traveling the world to learn about the outsiders and help protect his tribe) or one who is a charlatan. The Barbarian I actually did this with was a Knight, protected by the Spirits of his Ancestors (Ancestral Guardian Barbarian). The family had started as more "traditional" barbarians a few hundred years ago, but by helping a conquering king forge his kingdom, they earned land, titles, and became sworn protectors of the crown. And they still fought like barbarians, I didn't refluff a single class feature. I simply applied them to a character who was not illiterate, ill-mannered, or naked. In fact, as a human, I made sure his first feat was shield master, which I used to great effect while raging. I changed no rules. Nothing. Unless you can find something that says in the rules that Barbarians are not allowed to take the noble background, or take the feat shield master, or use their medium armor proficiency that the rules grant them. So, despite the "rules" saying that barbarians must be savages from the wilderness who spit upon society, the rules also allow me to take a high society character, and use the barbarian class. Just like I can make a wizard who is an entertainer A bard who is a pirate A rogue who is a priest A Druid who is a soldier A ranger who is a spy A monk who is a charlatan A paladin who is a criminal The rules allow for this. Unless you can quote a section of the PHB that says different [/QUOTE]

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