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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7923828" data-attributes="member: 6880599">I agree and this sounds good, however, I have never seen the argument &quot;your class is not your character/your class is&nbsp; your character&quot; debate brought to the table for the other players to weigh in. The argument is always stopped at the &quot;does not fit into the game setting&quot; aka the setting as the GM defines it. Which is the GMs right at session 0. If its an issue when a GM shifts the setting after several sessions of player investment into an idea. This can be caused by the GM or the player with the character in question. Its hard to say without a case by case examination and like I said, that's not going to happen at the table with the other party members. If the GM shifts it to deal with problematic play and the rest of the players were to agree with the change then its the player. If the GM shifts it on their whim of how they feel alone after session 0, despite no players at the table having issue with current play, the GM is sticking it to the player in question. It doesn't come to the table because if it does then the GM has to accept that table might accept the &quot;wrong answer&quot; and is easier to call &quot;game setting&quot; and get what they want. This particularly true if other players are not aware of the debate because if happens outside their gaming session and/or the player isn't aware of what is going on in a way to question &quot;setting&quot; like the GM having the only setting source book but not letting anyone see it &quot;because of spoilers&quot; etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7923828, member: 6880599"] I agree and this sounds good, however, I have never seen the argument "your class is not your character/your class is your character" debate brought to the table for the other players to weigh in. The argument is always stopped at the "does not fit into the game setting" aka the setting as the GM defines it. Which is the GMs right at session 0. If its an issue when a GM shifts the setting after several sessions of player investment into an idea. This can be caused by the GM or the player with the character in question. Its hard to say without a case by case examination and like I said, that's not going to happen at the table with the other party members. If the GM shifts it to deal with problematic play and the rest of the players were to agree with the change then its the player. If the GM shifts it on their whim of how they feel alone after session 0, despite no players at the table having issue with current play, the GM is sticking it to the player in question. It doesn't come to the table because if it does then the GM has to accept that table might accept the "wrong answer" and is easier to call "game setting" and get what they want. This particularly true if other players are not aware of the debate because if happens outside their gaming session and/or the player isn't aware of what is going on in a way to question "setting" like the GM having the only setting source book but not letting anyone see it "because of spoilers" etc. [/QUOTE]

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