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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7924569" data-attributes="member: 6802951">The mechanical rules represent exactly what they actually say. No more no less.Its OK.No one is suggesting that rules cannot be changed. No one is claiming that you're saying that rules cannot be changed. No one in this current discussion is talking about changing any rules at all as far as I can tell. Apart from your claim that some of these example characters, built in accordance with the rules, are somehow against the rules and thus would require homebrew to allow.In practicality, it is likely a moot point, since I don't think I've ever met a group retentive enough to say no to a concept like that. The question of whether homebrew is required and they're fine with it, or homebrew to allow it just isn't needed in the first place is quite irrelevant.However characters are often thought of with fondness by their players and so its hardly unexpected that when you start making claims that one "is against the rules", people are going to ask you to back up your allegations with facts.</blockquote>