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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7925779" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Except noone except you uses "homebrew" to mean "setting lore". You have put forth the idea that anything not in the PHB is homebrew. Even if it is official material.And, yet again, you are dodging the question I actually asked. Almost as though you don't want to admit the answer. I did not ask about a group denying my character because it does not fit the setting. I said the groups rule was "no homebrew" and I brought a generic class (the artificer) and was told it was homebrew. It isn't. Unless you think that when WOTC says "yet the class can be found throughout the D&D multiverse " that they are not saying it is a generic class that fits between settings.So, considering it is a generic class and not setting specific, is it homebrew or not? Yes or no answer, though I would like an explanation of your answer. Just not yet another evasion.I'm sorry. Obviously you've forgotten your own position.See, this section of text from PHB page 46 is a rule that must be followed "To a barbarian, though, civilization is no virtue, but a sign of weakness. The strong embrace their animal nature—keen instincts, primal physicality, and ferocious rage. Barbarians are uncomfortable when hedged in by walls and crowds. "In fact, it must be followed absolutely, you must fit within this framework. Because these are the rules. Therefore, you cannot play a barbarian who is comfortable with civilization.The next sentence is "They thrive in the wilds of their homelands: the tundra, jungle, or grasslands where their tribes live and hunt. " This is the same section, the same paragraph, the same rules.Are you trying to tell me that "To a barbarian civilization is a weakness" is a rule that all characters must follow, but "their homelands are tundras, jungles or grasslands" is, what? A suggested list? I'm not bound to those?One is a rule that is prescriptive, telling me what must absolutely be true, but the other is a mere suggestion and not prescriptive? I mean, your defense of including dwarves wasn't to say that their homelands are just a suggestion, your defense of dwarves being barbarians was that there is a specific example of a dwarven barbarian in the third paragraph. Why did you need to call that a "specific rule that trumps the general rule" if the places that barbarians live are not prescriptive rules?You can't weasel out of a position that all text in the PHB are rules by saying that "well, these rules are just general themes, you don't have to match them exactly."I'm sorry, I'm not going to respond to this point, because you have in no way demonstrated how this rule is prescriptive and enforceable as compared to the other rule which is simply a general theme. We can revisit this point once you have shown me how we can tell which rules and rules and which rules are not rules.Honestly, I'm not surprised you are ignoring it. Because it seems like your position has changed from "everything in the PHB is a rule that must be followed" to "well, most of these are just general themes that must be adhered to"Though, I will say skipping the part about human names all being from the Forgotten Realms, leaving no RAW human names since all Forgotten Realms details are homebrew and not real rules, is a mistake since that does seem to address exactly the point that you say you are defending, which is that all setting information is homebrew.I guess, unless it isn't.</blockquote>

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