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<blockquote data-quote="Fenris-77" data-source="post: 7927563" data-attributes="member: 6993955">Even the idea that &quot;they learn Z ability when they level&quot; is pretty much the opposite of the rest of what you're saying [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] . Abilities and levels are both pretty abstract, but if you want to contextualize stuff and start talking about how that happens in world, you probably don't want to start with the idea that characters suddenly learn a whole bunch of new stuff all at once because something meta happened. The abstractness of abilities also kind of puts the lie to the idea that they're all, or even mostly, 'learned' in the way you mean - Rogues aren't 'practicing' cunning action, just like Barbarians aren't 'practicing' rage - your use of learned is an issue here, as much as I don't like playing the grammar card.Cunning action is an ability that interacts with the rules and you aren't in a position to decide for everyone how that happens, or to tell people that their story for their character is 'wrong'. Again, the difference between fluff and rules seems to have slipped through the cracks here. I'm sensing a pattern.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fenris-77, post: 7927563, member: 6993955"] Even the idea that "they learn Z ability when they level" is pretty much the opposite of the rest of what you're saying [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] . Abilities and levels are both pretty abstract, but if you want to contextualize stuff and start talking about how that happens in world, you probably don't want to start with the idea that characters suddenly learn a whole bunch of new stuff all at once because something meta happened. The abstractness of abilities also kind of puts the lie to the idea that they're all, or even mostly, 'learned' in the way you mean - Rogues aren't 'practicing' cunning action, just like Barbarians aren't 'practicing' rage - your use of learned is an issue here, as much as I don't like playing the grammar card. Cunning action is an ability that interacts with the rules and you aren't in a position to decide for everyone how that happens, or to tell people that their story for their character is 'wrong'. Again, the difference between fluff and rules seems to have slipped through the cracks here. I'm sensing a pattern. [/QUOTE]

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