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"Your Class is Not Your Character": Is this a real problem?
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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7927832" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>ROFLOL</p><p></p><p>Oh my god, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad that you are serious. </p><p></p><p>You want to extend it to every time they hide even as a child? Every time they have ever run?</p><p></p><p>That makes it so so so much worse for you. </p><p></p><p>You realize that for basic military fitness, heck for basic fitness, you run a mile a day? Every day. </p><p></p><p>A fighter with the soldier background has likely run a mile a day for <strong>years</strong>. A ranger with the outlander background probably has run cross-country even more than that.</p><p></p><p>Neither class can dash as a bonus action. </p><p></p><p>A warlock hiding in libraries every week doesn't get to hide as a bonus action. Even though they might have been sneaking around for months to get the tomes they desire.</p><p></p><p>If you want to absurdum my argument to think I meant they have never run or hid in their life then you open the door to cunning action being open to any person with basic fitness.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah. Different people learn different tricks from the same practice? So the rogue and fighter who run a mile everyday, exact same training program, one will learn how to once an hour get a boost of attacks, the other will be able to quickly hide in the shadows every six seconds with no limits. </p><p></p><p>It is an often observed phenomena that people going through the exact same training program come away with vastly different skills.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe I should be ashamed, you've gotten me quite upset, but I still come back and try and reason with you. </p><p></p><p>But again, I'm not twisting anything. You are saying everything I'm repeating. </p><p></p><p>You have said that a specific sentence in a paragraph had to be followed, or it was a homebrew class.</p><p></p><p>You then said that the very next sentence in that paragraph is only a set of suggestions, not a prescription you have to follow or homebrew the class to change it. </p><p></p><p>You said abilities must be learned. </p><p></p><p>Then you have a problem with the implications of that. </p><p></p><p>Now you are taking more extreme versions of that position to try and make sense of the situations you are proposing</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7927832, member: 6801228"] ROFLOL Oh my god, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad that you are serious. You want to extend it to every time they hide even as a child? Every time they have ever run? That makes it so so so much worse for you. You realize that for basic military fitness, heck for basic fitness, you run a mile a day? Every day. A fighter with the soldier background has likely run a mile a day for [B]years[/B]. A ranger with the outlander background probably has run cross-country even more than that. Neither class can dash as a bonus action. A warlock hiding in libraries every week doesn't get to hide as a bonus action. Even though they might have been sneaking around for months to get the tomes they desire. If you want to absurdum my argument to think I meant they have never run or hid in their life then you open the door to cunning action being open to any person with basic fitness. Ah. Different people learn different tricks from the same practice? So the rogue and fighter who run a mile everyday, exact same training program, one will learn how to once an hour get a boost of attacks, the other will be able to quickly hide in the shadows every six seconds with no limits. It is an often observed phenomena that people going through the exact same training program come away with vastly different skills. Maybe I should be ashamed, you've gotten me quite upset, but I still come back and try and reason with you. But again, I'm not twisting anything. You are saying everything I'm repeating. You have said that a specific sentence in a paragraph had to be followed, or it was a homebrew class. You then said that the very next sentence in that paragraph is only a set of suggestions, not a prescription you have to follow or homebrew the class to change it. You said abilities must be learned. Then you have a problem with the implications of that. Now you are taking more extreme versions of that position to try and make sense of the situations you are proposing [/QUOTE]
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