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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Matrix Sorcica" data-source="post: 5200336" data-attributes="member: 3547">Nitpick: 35th level Brute. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> You can maybe use the repungnant (sp?) fane delve from Draconomicon 1. It's level 29 and results in the party facing Tiamat.spoilers below: Mesh Hong's players stay out![SPOILER]You can let them meet Tiamat and let it result in a TPK. Well, without actually having her finish them off. But defeating them all to unconciousness. This will let you be able to force a quest on them from the Dragon Queen plus install some much needed respect/fear of Tiamat in them - and at the same time make them yearn for revenge! [/SPOILER]</blockquote>