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<blockquote data-quote="JustinAlexander" data-source="post: 6112455" data-attributes="member: 6700092">This is the part I'm not getting. I thought there was a possibility that Paizo's creature guidelines were incorrect, but looking at the attack bonuses of CR 7 creatures I get: +10, +17, +13, +8, +12, +13, +12, +14, +13Which means that bog standard, straight-out-of-the-book opponents should generally still be hitting her with a decent amount of regularity.This, unfortunately, is an almost unavoidable problem if you've got two characters both trying to perform in the same niche. It's difficult to comment on it without a wider understanding of the characters: I'm not really clear on how &quot;she's 30% more difficult to hit, so I'm completely useless now&quot; works, so there must be more to it than that.For example, we've established that the AC 23 fighter/juggernaut is devoting essentially NONE of his resources in terms of class abilities, feats, ability scores, or equipment to improving his AC. Where are those resources going?You don't have to play the &quot;find every bonus&quot; game, but these characters must be doing something with the resources they're given, right?Which should make the character even less problematic. If combat is making up only a minor portion of your game, the character who has specialized their spell slots for combat must be functioning non-optimally outside of combat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JustinAlexander, post: 6112455, member: 6700092"] This is the part I'm not getting. I thought there was a possibility that Paizo's creature guidelines were incorrect, but looking at the attack bonuses of CR 7 creatures I get: +10, +17, +13, +8, +12, +13, +12, +14, +13 Which means that bog standard, straight-out-of-the-book opponents should generally still be hitting her with a decent amount of regularity. This, unfortunately, is an almost unavoidable problem if you've got two characters both trying to perform in the same niche. It's difficult to comment on it without a wider understanding of the characters: I'm not really clear on how "she's 30% more difficult to hit, so I'm completely useless now" works, so there must be more to it than that. For example, we've established that the AC 23 fighter/juggernaut is devoting essentially NONE of his resources in terms of class abilities, feats, ability scores, or equipment to improving his AC. Where are those resources going? You don't have to play the "find every bonus" game, but these characters must be doing [i]something[/i] with the resources they're given, right? Which should make the character even less problematic. If combat is making up only a minor portion of your game, the character who has specialized their spell slots for combat must be functioning non-optimally outside of combat. [/QUOTE]

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