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<blockquote data-quote="Flexor the Mighty!" data-source="post: 2651612" data-attributes="member: 1013">I wonder how many Jedi Vader just force chokes to death?&nbsp; Most jedi probably couldn't withstand his power.&nbsp;&nbsp; In the novelization of Sith they mention how he cannot feel the force like he used to since he's so mechanical.&nbsp; In the commentary for Empire Lucas says the same thing, that before he could have overthrown Palpatine by himself, but now that he so mechanical he needs Luke to help him do it.&nbsp;&nbsp; However it is never alluded to in the movies in any way.&nbsp;&nbsp; I never got the idea that Vader was weak in the force in anyway from the first trilogy.&nbsp; He can force choke people who are miles away from him, he can whip up a telekentic whirlwind of heavy objects and crap without even gesturing at anything, he can block blasters with his hands, etc.&nbsp; Of course there is nothing to really compare him to other than Luke, Yoda, and the Emperor of course.&nbsp; So maybe he is still a vastly powerful Jedi, but not as powerful as he was, or could have been?&nbsp;&nbsp; And why would having cyber parts slow him down that much?&nbsp;&nbsp; Why woudln't they make superior limbs for him?The SW books are very hit or miss, but I&quot;m going to be all over the Vader during the purge novel.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flexor the Mighty!, post: 2651612, member: 1013"] I wonder how many Jedi Vader just force chokes to death? Most jedi probably couldn't withstand his power. In the novelization of Sith they mention how he cannot feel the force like he used to since he's so mechanical. In the commentary for Empire Lucas says the same thing, that before he could have overthrown Palpatine by himself, but now that he so mechanical he needs Luke to help him do it. However it is never alluded to in the movies in any way. I never got the idea that Vader was weak in the force in anyway from the first trilogy. He can force choke people who are miles away from him, he can whip up a telekentic whirlwind of heavy objects and crap without even gesturing at anything, he can block blasters with his hands, etc. Of course there is nothing to really compare him to other than Luke, Yoda, and the Emperor of course. So maybe he is still a vastly powerful Jedi, but not as powerful as he was, or could have been? And why would having cyber parts slow him down that much? Why woudln't they make superior limbs for him? The SW books are very hit or miss, but I"m going to be all over the Vader during the purge novel. [/QUOTE]

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