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<blockquote data-quote="Ankh-Morpork Guard" data-source="post: 2651636" data-attributes="member: 10079"><p>That one's straight from Lucas. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> He's stated multiple times that the cybernetics limit one's ability to use the Force, thus weakening Vader and making him controllable for the Emperor.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's obviously a debatable point. Who knows what Lucas would have done, but we work with what we've got. The styles are definitely different, but there are ways to rationalize them without too much reaching within the story itself instead of the obvious "No Nick Gillard to do the fights."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Its not that Vader is weak, but instead <em>weaker</em> than he was before the cybernetics. He was the Chosen One, the strongest Jedi ever to exist. We saw him at the height of his power in RotS, but that was really it. After that point, he's got the cybernetics and his strength in the Force drops. </p><p></p><p>Also, the cybernetics don't slow him down a huge amount...its more that they are inferior to the strength that the Force provides. Yes, they're still great when compared to a normal limb, but they still pale in comparison to how the Force can keep him fast and strong.</p><p></p><p>That, and another thing is that Anakin has always been extremely arrogant. There's nothing to say he doesn't tone down his fights for the simple reason that he feels he's too good and doesn't need to waste any energy. The entire Luke/Vader duel in ESB is all about him simply toying with Luke the entire time. The poor kid never had a chance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ankh-Morpork Guard, post: 2651636, member: 10079"] That one's straight from Lucas. :) He's stated multiple times that the cybernetics limit one's ability to use the Force, thus weakening Vader and making him controllable for the Emperor. That's obviously a debatable point. Who knows what Lucas would have done, but we work with what we've got. The styles are definitely different, but there are ways to rationalize them without too much reaching within the story itself instead of the obvious "No Nick Gillard to do the fights." Its not that Vader is weak, but instead [i]weaker[/i] than he was before the cybernetics. He was the Chosen One, the strongest Jedi ever to exist. We saw him at the height of his power in RotS, but that was really it. After that point, he's got the cybernetics and his strength in the Force drops. Also, the cybernetics don't slow him down a huge amount...its more that they are inferior to the strength that the Force provides. Yes, they're still great when compared to a normal limb, but they still pale in comparison to how the Force can keep him fast and strong. That, and another thing is that Anakin has always been extremely arrogant. There's nothing to say he doesn't tone down his fights for the simple reason that he feels he's too good and doesn't need to waste any energy. The entire Luke/Vader duel in ESB is all about him simply toying with Luke the entire time. The poor kid never had a chance. [/QUOTE]
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