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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 5673877" data-attributes="member: 6668292">That's fine, and it sounds like a really relaxed and chill group. That's awesome, and as far as I can tell, an uncommon thing. I consider my group pretty chill overall, too, and we're definitely pretty relaxed, and no ones ruins the group for anyone else.I guess I'm just curious why it's surprising to you that tardiness bugs people. I've always told people that real life > game, but on stuff that they have control over, it's just a lack of consideration that bugs me.We schedule our games once per week, and we play from 4:30pm to 2am. Hugely long sessions, as far as I can tell from these boards (though years ago we used to play so much longer, and so much more often). One of my roommates gets off work between 2pm and 6pm on game day -I don't mind if he's late, nor if he comes home and showers or whatever before jumping in. Another player (the adopted little brother of mine) sometimes shows up two hours late because game day is his only day off, and he wants to spend time with his wife. It grates on me because he used to be the ride for the two newer players, but I let it go, because real life > game.What bugs me is the stuff that can be helped, or is unimportant. Getting food ten minutes before game. Showing up late because you needed to shower still when your ride arrived. Leaving to drive to town to pick two guys up and plan on stopping to get food, even when there's not enough time for all of that. Not texting me back when I ask how long the wait will be because you know it'll only be 30 minutes, but leaving me with no idea if I should wait or start without you. A huge one is getting to my place on time to play game, but chilling on Facebook, GitP (to read OotS), playing on your phone, etc., even after I've asked if everyone is ready because we're all here.I don't mind starting a few minutes late. I don't mind working around schedules. I'm slightly annoyed when people stop everyone else from playing the game we want to play because of simple and avoidable conditions. One of my roommates works grave and is the ride for at least one other player who lives 30 minutes (round trip) away. Since we aim for 4:30, he usually gets up at 2:30 to get up, wake up, get ready, pick up our friend (who's going to be playing), stop to get food, eat, etc. If we needed to push things back until 6 this week, I'm sure he'd appreciate the hour and a half of sleep, and I'm sure the guy getting picked up wouldn't mind spending that time with his girlfriend.The important stuff? Yeah, no problem working around that. It's the inconsiderate stuff that bugs me. We see each other a lot. We don't need the extra time to socialize. You like that about your group, and that's honestly awesome. Finding a group that meshes well with your playstyle is hard to do sometimes, and I'm glad you have one. I'm just not sure why it's surprising that not all groups are in your position. Or, if that's not the case, why it's surprising that some people are annoyed by tardiness (since they don't have the same reasons to be okay with it that you do).I'm just still talking out of curiosity and for communication. I'm not trying to debate or anything. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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