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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 3789007" data-attributes="member: 1465">That could be anything... I'm at the moment about 50% likely to play it, so I don't even know if one year from now I will play 3.0 or 4e or something else entirely.I am a DM and a player, and in our group there are 2 other DMs. We're very different DMs when approaching the rules.I am the one who tries to use as few HR as possible, but when I use one HR it's typically a major one (UA-types). I use major HR as a device to differentiate between campaigns, together with changing settings assumptions.Another DM is an AD&D grognard, and he usually applies lots of HR and tweaks, typically small HR but sometimes unbalacing... He doesn't seem to care about that very much, but he is also a strong Rule0-ing DM so if something really doesn't work, he'll cover it up with another HR.The third DM doesn't care much about the ruleset. She cares much more about settings and flavor. So she very rarely uses HR at all (unless requested by the players). She does care a lot about how hard for the DM it is to use a ruleset, and because of that she has already expressed her wish not to DM with D&D 3ed anymore... BTW she runs other games with different rulesets, but I'm not playing in them.What I expect from each of us...I will probably wait and see. Continue running my 3.0 games, check reviews and the 4e SRD and the forums. A few months after May I might decide to give it a try from the SRD (just like I did with 3.5), unless it looks bad. After trying, I'll make my choice (btw, with 3.5 the choice was to stick to 3.0: saved a lot of money also). This is only about DMing of course... if the other DMs will switch to 4e I will certainly play that with them!The AD&D grognard will probably pick up 4e anyway, rant about it a lot, make the switch anyway in his campaign but apply loads of HR just like he did with 3.0. (OTOH notice that he did NOT switch to 3.5 at all. It was totally unnecessary given his large use of HR).The third DM will stop DMing 3.0 for sure, but might not be interested at all in 4e unless she is convinced from the other games that is significantly easier to DM, and still likeable in flavor.That means I'm very likely to at least PLAY it in one group, and 50% likely to buy it and RUN games.No. We certainly won't make a switch mid-campaign. We can wait until we're done with the current ones.No. No. But neither I think we'll lose gamers if we don't make the switch. Maybe we'll lose potential NEW players if we don't convert... but frankly I don't care: we already are a bunch of friends and we don't need new players, and if we do one day, we are going to introduce some of our other friends to the hobby rather than recruit strangers. Furthermore, the kind of gamer that is obsessed with following the mainstream product line ("convert of perish") is typically the kind of gamer we don't enjoy to play with for long anyway...Actually, the only major change that I foresee is that if I don't like 4e I will stop spending time on online forums  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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