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<blockquote data-quote="sirwmholder" data-source="post: 3177614" data-attributes="member: 41558"><p>Interestingly enough I have given this some thought as well... The way I would handle it would be to add two new ability scores... split dexterity into agility (dealing with movement, balance, riding) and dexterity (dealing with coordination, two weapon fighting)... then split charisma into charisma (presence) and comeliness (prettiness, flirtation)... I would then make saves an average of two ability modifiers... </p><p></p><p>Strength of Body - External and Internal ( Str + Con )/2 = Fort</p><p>Speed of Body - Coordination and Movement ( Dex + Agi )/2 = Ref</p><p>Speed of Mind - Assimilation of Data and Recall ( Int + Wis )/2 = Clarity</p><p>Strength of Mind - Presence and Perception ( Cha + Com )/2 = Will</p><p></p><p>Allow Clarity to take the place of concentration, a skill which really should be a save?. Anyway, I never had a chance to test this out to see if it would be worthwhile... but it's an idea.</p><p></p><p>On to Illusion spells... they tend to be pretty weak but they are fun to use on NPC's or for personal amusement <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> As for assessing their effectiveness... it depends on how into it the player is. If they describe every little detail then I'm more likely to have the damage be real or full damage... if damage dealt is greater than the hitpoints of the creature then I suppose you could say they were scared to death (too much adrenaline and a weak heart)... I'm not a big fan of any save or die type spells, the phantasmal killer included, so I would probably allow it do deal damage based on the form it took. All of this is provided the victim fails his saving throw... keep in mind there are things to boost save DC's and if the player is extremely descriptive then I would add a circumstance bonus to the DC.</p><p></p><p>Thank you for your time,</p><p>Wm. Holder</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sirwmholder, post: 3177614, member: 41558"] Interestingly enough I have given this some thought as well... The way I would handle it would be to add two new ability scores... split dexterity into agility (dealing with movement, balance, riding) and dexterity (dealing with coordination, two weapon fighting)... then split charisma into charisma (presence) and comeliness (prettiness, flirtation)... I would then make saves an average of two ability modifiers... Strength of Body - External and Internal ( Str + Con )/2 = Fort Speed of Body - Coordination and Movement ( Dex + Agi )/2 = Ref Speed of Mind - Assimilation of Data and Recall ( Int + Wis )/2 = Clarity Strength of Mind - Presence and Perception ( Cha + Com )/2 = Will Allow Clarity to take the place of concentration, a skill which really should be a save?. Anyway, I never had a chance to test this out to see if it would be worthwhile... but it's an idea. On to Illusion spells... they tend to be pretty weak but they are fun to use on NPC's or for personal amusement ;) As for assessing their effectiveness... it depends on how into it the player is. If they describe every little detail then I'm more likely to have the damage be real or full damage... if damage dealt is greater than the hitpoints of the creature then I suppose you could say they were scared to death (too much adrenaline and a weak heart)... I'm not a big fan of any save or die type spells, the phantasmal killer included, so I would probably allow it do deal damage based on the form it took. All of this is provided the victim fails his saving throw... keep in mind there are things to boost save DC's and if the player is extremely descriptive then I would add a circumstance bonus to the DC. Thank you for your time, Wm. Holder [/QUOTE]
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