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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jorunkun" data-source="post: 4372468" data-attributes="member: 57929">Silvercat,I'm not entirely sure I fully get where you are coming from, but I'll try to answer anyway.I wouldn't say that. I mean, from the characters' POV, the world is worth saving because it's the only one there is, and because maybe they feel they owe it to themselves to try and be "the good guy heroes" precisely because nobody else is making the effort.My group has been playing D&D together for a long time, and this kind of intrinsic motivation for adventuring has proven to be more interesting (esp. wrt roleplaying) in the long term than explicit rewards like blowing up the Death Star to banish evil from the world forever more. Or, again and again.I guess your mode of playing is more like, say, Star Trek. You've got a set of immediately capable heroes whop travel the unknown to encounter and oprevail in a huge breadth of challenges. Under this premise, gritty would be little more than an exercise in masochism, so I understand why it's not appealing to you. In a Star Trek like episodic setting, it doesn't. Long-term, deep internal consistency is only important for the heroes immediate world at the core of the story, the rest of the world is "just strange", that's why it's exciting to travel there.My experience is that a gritty campaign benefits from emphasizing depth over breadth, and that only works if things are thought through. I could go an at length about why I think this is, but I need to go to work, so some other time maybe? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  Well, you don't need anyone to tell you that the playstyle you like is badwrongfrun, do you? If simple and derivative works for you (as it does for what I reckon is the majority of roleplayers) ... enjoy.J.</blockquote>

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