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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9231878" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Okay I got two more for Reacher S2 - spoilerblocked in case you care about the plot of Reacher which you probably don't because we're watching it because Big Man do Big Man Things, but anyway.</p><p></p><p>1) So they're discussing the main McGuffin, which turns out to be [ISPOILER]this special guidance system for missiles, which is too smart for countermeasures, and also does a top-attack thing where it intentionally appears to miss the target before veering down on it (IRL this latter has been tried and doesn't work very well, because it's a great opportunity to lose the target), and shock, horror, they're worried this might be sold to terrorists in order to attack civilian airliners. This is an insane plotline firstly because why do you need anti-countermeasure systems to deal with a civilian airliner? I guess certain Israeli airliners and US government airliner-airframe planes have them but come on. Secondly because this isn't being integrated into air-to-air missiles or proper SAMs, only MANPADS - i.e. shoulder-launched SAMs - the place where it would be least likely to be useful! Thirdly, they're insanely cheap! They're getting them - possibly only the warheads/guidance systems at least, though what we saw appeared to be an artillery shell so whatever - for $100k each! That's absolute chump change! Less than a Stinger MANPADS, an ancient 1980s ass piece of kit! This is supposed to be super-cutting edge US-specific tech - if that's true, China alone would pay a 1000x that for it just to reverse engineer it on the offchance it was good! I guess maybe this is a very old book being adapted or something? But wow. I was thinking maybe they were just getting a chip or something but apparently not.[/ISPOILER]</p><p></p><p>2) A normal, non-armoured car gets shot up [ISPOILER]and none of the bullets go through to the interior at all (except via windows). The people shooting are using a 9mm, a 5.56mm carbine, and a 4.7mm H&K PDW. I could buy the former maybe, but the latter two? They'd go in one side and out the other, or deflect around crazily inside.[/ISPOILER]</p><p></p><p>This is obviously the tip of the Reacher iceberg but it's stuff that made me go "Oh come on..." - I preferred the previous series where there was a lot less of this and a lot more Big Man is Big and this Solves Problem or implausible-but-fun combat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9231878, member: 18"] Okay I got two more for Reacher S2 - spoilerblocked in case you care about the plot of Reacher which you probably don't because we're watching it because Big Man do Big Man Things, but anyway. 1) So they're discussing the main McGuffin, which turns out to be [ISPOILER]this special guidance system for missiles, which is too smart for countermeasures, and also does a top-attack thing where it intentionally appears to miss the target before veering down on it (IRL this latter has been tried and doesn't work very well, because it's a great opportunity to lose the target), and shock, horror, they're worried this might be sold to terrorists in order to attack civilian airliners. This is an insane plotline firstly because why do you need anti-countermeasure systems to deal with a civilian airliner? I guess certain Israeli airliners and US government airliner-airframe planes have them but come on. Secondly because this isn't being integrated into air-to-air missiles or proper SAMs, only MANPADS - i.e. shoulder-launched SAMs - the place where it would be least likely to be useful! Thirdly, they're insanely cheap! They're getting them - possibly only the warheads/guidance systems at least, though what we saw appeared to be an artillery shell so whatever - for $100k each! That's absolute chump change! Less than a Stinger MANPADS, an ancient 1980s ass piece of kit! This is supposed to be super-cutting edge US-specific tech - if that's true, China alone would pay a 1000x that for it just to reverse engineer it on the offchance it was good! I guess maybe this is a very old book being adapted or something? But wow. I was thinking maybe they were just getting a chip or something but apparently not.[/ISPOILER] 2) A normal, non-armoured car gets shot up [ISPOILER]and none of the bullets go through to the interior at all (except via windows). The people shooting are using a 9mm, a 5.56mm carbine, and a 4.7mm H&K PDW. I could buy the former maybe, but the latter two? They'd go in one side and out the other, or deflect around crazily inside.[/ISPOILER] This is obviously the tip of the Reacher iceberg but it's stuff that made me go "Oh come on..." - I preferred the previous series where there was a lot less of this and a lot more Big Man is Big and this Solves Problem or implausible-but-fun combat. [/QUOTE]
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