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<blockquote data-quote="Torm" data-source="post: 1770678" data-attributes="member: 12706"><p>I, for one, am not bothered. Someone else's opinion does not effect my faith one way or another, unless they accompany it by what seems to me to be a logical argument that sways my feeling on the matter. But you're right about staying on topic. Absolutely. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em>I</em></strong> forgive you anyway, so too bloody bad. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>That's an interesting take on "Do As Thou Wilt." It doesn't jive with my previous understanding that, in those belief systems, the animal, material aspect of our beings is given dominance - but it DOES give me something to think about. Thanks. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>But I <em>will</em> point out that, from certain perspectives, "cult" is NOT just what one religion's people calls the people of another - there are other uses in this context, as well. Example: The government, particularly the ATF, has a secular definition for cult that guides what organizations they feel the need to investigate. I believe it has something to do with whether the organization exists to serve its members or if it exists to serve a particular person or persons, from an objective point of view. Which goes back to my point - the organization Stormborn is trying to create for his game, to be believable, either needs to have one (or a very few) being catered to by a larger number because of some sort of special status they have convinced them they have, or they would be too egalitarian to be cohesive - unless, of course, they were ALL evil, but in that case, I'm not sure you would count them as followers for the purposes of determining their "godhood" and cleric-empowering abilities.</p><p></p><p>Hmmm - how about a group that for one reason or another believes they <em>are</em> ALL divine, like a group of Tieflings. And as they increase their numbers, their shared belief in their divinity begins empowering all of them - somehow, they ALL count as each others' followers, because they believe in each other?</p><p></p><p>Its reminding me of Slivers, for some reason. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Torm, post: 1770678, member: 12706"] I, for one, am not bothered. Someone else's opinion does not effect my faith one way or another, unless they accompany it by what seems to me to be a logical argument that sways my feeling on the matter. But you're right about staying on topic. Absolutely. :D [B][I]I[/I][/B] forgive you anyway, so too bloody bad. :p That's an interesting take on "Do As Thou Wilt." It doesn't jive with my previous understanding that, in those belief systems, the animal, material aspect of our beings is given dominance - but it DOES give me something to think about. Thanks. :) But I [I]will[/I] point out that, from certain perspectives, "cult" is NOT just what one religion's people calls the people of another - there are other uses in this context, as well. Example: The government, particularly the ATF, has a secular definition for cult that guides what organizations they feel the need to investigate. I believe it has something to do with whether the organization exists to serve its members or if it exists to serve a particular person or persons, from an objective point of view. Which goes back to my point - the organization Stormborn is trying to create for his game, to be believable, either needs to have one (or a very few) being catered to by a larger number because of some sort of special status they have convinced them they have, or they would be too egalitarian to be cohesive - unless, of course, they were ALL evil, but in that case, I'm not sure you would count them as followers for the purposes of determining their "godhood" and cleric-empowering abilities. Hmmm - how about a group that for one reason or another believes they [I]are[/I] ALL divine, like a group of Tieflings. And as they increase their numbers, their shared belief in their divinity begins empowering all of them - somehow, they ALL count as each others' followers, because they believe in each other? Its reminding me of Slivers, for some reason. ;) [/QUOTE]
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