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<blockquote data-quote="ptolemy18" data-source="post: 3957062" data-attributes="member: 24970"><p>I love Save-or-Die. It sucks (IMHO, obviously) that it was removed from the new edition, although I have some faith that they'll replace it with new combat mechanics which are also interesting and dramatic and which -- importantly -- don't reduce the overall challenge level of the game.</p><p></p><p>Everyone has their own preferred kind of D&D, of course. To me, D&D is one part heroic adventure stories AND one part random chance to keep the story interesting ("Oh no! This shocking and unexpected death has totally altered the course of the campaign!") Whether that random-chance-of-death comes down to one bad die roll, or a series of bad die rolls, is just a question of degree. And anyone who is so attached to a character (or NPC) that they will freak out (out-of-character, that is) if they die...... well, I'm not one of those people, and I don't like playing with them, either as a DM or a player. The instant that I feel the DM is "going soft on the players" is the instant I lose interest in the game and feel like I'm basically just sitting around in a big pat-one-another-on-the-back-about-how-great-our-characters-are-all-the-way-to-30th-level hug circle. It's one big "ooooh we are all destined to be heroes" Mary-Sue-fest. There's no satisfaction in character advancement unless it involves risk of losing that character (or having that character weakened significantly, in which case losing the character may be preferable), and I would say that the story in such a game is less satisfying, too.</p><p></p><p>Basically -- I think we may have different D&D philosophies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ptolemy18, post: 3957062, member: 24970"] I love Save-or-Die. It sucks (IMHO, obviously) that it was removed from the new edition, although I have some faith that they'll replace it with new combat mechanics which are also interesting and dramatic and which -- importantly -- don't reduce the overall challenge level of the game. Everyone has their own preferred kind of D&D, of course. To me, D&D is one part heroic adventure stories AND one part random chance to keep the story interesting ("Oh no! This shocking and unexpected death has totally altered the course of the campaign!") Whether that random-chance-of-death comes down to one bad die roll, or a series of bad die rolls, is just a question of degree. And anyone who is so attached to a character (or NPC) that they will freak out (out-of-character, that is) if they die...... well, I'm not one of those people, and I don't like playing with them, either as a DM or a player. The instant that I feel the DM is "going soft on the players" is the instant I lose interest in the game and feel like I'm basically just sitting around in a big pat-one-another-on-the-back-about-how-great-our-characters-are-all-the-way-to-30th-level hug circle. It's one big "ooooh we are all destined to be heroes" Mary-Sue-fest. There's no satisfaction in character advancement unless it involves risk of losing that character (or having that character weakened significantly, in which case losing the character may be preferable), and I would say that the story in such a game is less satisfying, too. Basically -- I think we may have different D&D philosophies. [/QUOTE]
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