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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 9592044" data-attributes="member: 2205">There's an obvious corollary to this, though... The farther that the game migrates from the tropes that we recognize and desire, the more justified we are in saying, screw it, I'm not a customer anymore.Speaking of which, I'd love to see some good data on adoption rates of 5.5 vs 5e. I'm 100% sure that it's not available yet, even if WotC have some early read on it. But I'm really curious. Certainly from my own perspective, it seems that WotC and the Greater Seattle RPG industry in general has been catering to a smaller crowd than they used to, and another crowd that's more vocal every day is calling them out for being left behind. But loudness on the internet never was a good gauge of what people generally are actually doing, so who knows? Most likely, all of these controversies aren't even on the radar at all of most gamers.Of course, there could be other reasons why gamers are delaying purchase or adoption of 5.5 vs 5e that aren't related to internet controversies too.I think its curious that people post that phrase out of context. As if less than half a dozen verses later Jesus doesn't specifically instruct the listeners to that sermon exactly how to judge. Context matters. I absolutely WILL judge other peoples games, at the very least, I will judge whether or not I have any desire to play in such a game, or if I think their advice about gaming has any relevance to me or not.Sensitive topics are sometimes two-edged swords. You pander to one side, you lose the other, and vice versa. Certainly publishers do have to make decisions about their audiences, but they can't complain when they do if part of their audience calls them out for freezing them out and leaving them behind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 9592044, member: 2205"] There's an obvious corollary to this, though... The farther that the game migrates from the tropes that we recognize and desire, the more justified we are in saying, screw it, I'm not a customer anymore. Speaking of which, I'd love to see some good data on adoption rates of 5.5 vs 5e. I'm 100% sure that it's not available yet, even if WotC have some early read on it. But I'm really curious. Certainly from my own perspective, it seems that WotC and the Greater Seattle RPG industry in general has been catering to a smaller crowd than they used to, and another crowd that's more vocal every day is calling them out for being left behind. But loudness on the internet never was a good gauge of what people generally are actually doing, so who knows? Most likely, all of these controversies aren't even on the radar at all of most gamers. Of course, there could be other reasons why gamers are delaying purchase or adoption of 5.5 vs 5e that aren't related to internet controversies too. I think its curious that people post that phrase out of context. As if less than half a dozen verses later Jesus doesn't specifically instruct the listeners to that sermon exactly how to judge. Context matters. I absolutely WILL judge other peoples games, at the very least, I will judge whether or not I have any desire to play in such a game, or if I think their advice about gaming has any relevance to me or not. Sensitive topics are sometimes two-edged swords. You pander to one side, you lose the other, and vice versa. Certainly publishers do have to make decisions about their audiences, but they can't complain when they do if part of their audience calls them out for freezing them out and leaving them behind. [/QUOTE]

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