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<blockquote data-quote="UltimaGabe" data-source="post: 1495564" data-attributes="member: 16019"><p>Exactly. If you opt to do unarmed damage in addition to using a Touch spell (by making a normal attack roll rather than a touch attack roll), you're effectively making your fists into limited Spell Storing weapons. Spell damage from a Shocking Grasp would still be doubled if you rolled a natural 20, even though you're attacking with your fist rather than the spell. I don't see why it would be different for a Spell Storing weapon.</p><p></p><p>However, one could easily rule that if the spell doesn't crit on a 17 by itself, it doesn't crit on a 17 when the weapon it's stored in does. So a Keen Longsword with Shocking Grasp in it would do double the Sword damage when rolling a 17, but not double the spell damage. If he rolled a natural 20, or a 19 with the Improved Critical (Touch) feat, then it would be a different story.</p><p></p><p>But then, that leads us to the question... who would need the feat- the person wielding the weapon, or the person casting the spell? After all, all effects of the spell (such as duration, damage, caster level, DC, whatever) is all determined by the caster of the spell, even if s/he has feats that increase them (such as Spell Focus). Then who would have to have Improved Critical (Touch) in order for the spell to threaten a critical on a 19 when cast from a Spell Storing weapon?</p><p></p><p>Geez, all the questions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UltimaGabe, post: 1495564, member: 16019"] Exactly. If you opt to do unarmed damage in addition to using a Touch spell (by making a normal attack roll rather than a touch attack roll), you're effectively making your fists into limited Spell Storing weapons. Spell damage from a Shocking Grasp would still be doubled if you rolled a natural 20, even though you're attacking with your fist rather than the spell. I don't see why it would be different for a Spell Storing weapon. However, one could easily rule that if the spell doesn't crit on a 17 by itself, it doesn't crit on a 17 when the weapon it's stored in does. So a Keen Longsword with Shocking Grasp in it would do double the Sword damage when rolling a 17, but not double the spell damage. If he rolled a natural 20, or a 19 with the Improved Critical (Touch) feat, then it would be a different story. But then, that leads us to the question... who would need the feat- the person wielding the weapon, or the person casting the spell? After all, all effects of the spell (such as duration, damage, caster level, DC, whatever) is all determined by the caster of the spell, even if s/he has feats that increase them (such as Spell Focus). Then who would have to have Improved Critical (Touch) in order for the spell to threaten a critical on a 19 when cast from a Spell Storing weapon? Geez, all the questions. [/QUOTE]
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