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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 480550" data-attributes="member: 114">I'm very disappointed with the implementation of prestige classes, frankly.I think that the way they function best is as organisations which give benefits and have entry requirements. I think that they should give benefits over a straight class, and that entry to them should always have a role-playing element (travel to x and persuade y of your dedication and worthiness for the cause). I really dislike the "prestige class as power-up" mentality which I sometimes see in their design.Unfortunately, even the DMG prestige classes seem to fall a little short of the high ideals that Monte originally lays out for them.The class books, even the DMG would have benefited vastly from explaining how to create prestige classes for prestige organisations within a campaign world, rather than churning out lots of "one size fits none" classes in the splatbooks.< /rant >I love the idea of prestige classes, and there are several that I happily use in my campaign. The *next* campaign that I run will still have prestige classes but almost *all* entry restrictions will be removed and replaced with role-play entry restrictions. i.e. you won't have to have a certain BAB or set of feats - but you will have to complete a series of challenges (which will be well-nigh impossible for a starting character).After all, why should someone with 10 Con and the Endurance feat get in when someone with 18 or 20 Con couldn't? Why should someone with 8 Dex and 10 ranks in Hide (overall +9) get in when someone with 18 Dex and 6 ranks (overall +10) not? I understand why it is done in terms of restricting entry to characters of a particular level, but I chafe at the meta-game restriction this imposes.oops! < /rant > again!Sorry if this seems a little ranty, but I hope you may see some method in my madness.Cheers</blockquote>

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