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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 482242" data-attributes="member: 78">I've never seen anyone take the PrCs in BOEM 1 either.  They all trade 5 levels of spell casting for some relatively weak powers.  The Embermage has a higher HD, but needs mostly weak feats, and only gains some weak powers that cost him his extra HP to use.  Wow.  Lose most of your 8th and complete access to your 9th level spells for that?!  Spellcasting classes are tricky, because any losses in spell ability generally come from the top of the progression, where spells are the most powerful.  It takes a lot of special powers to equal the wishes and Timestops that can be thrown around with level 9 spells.</blockquote>