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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 482969" data-attributes="member: 4937">I pretty much agree with Psion on that.  If you are going to use a PrC, then at the very least the PrC should require enough of a sacrifice that it is not a no brainer whether or not you should take it.   Certainly no full BAB progression PrC that is providing more than one feat equivalent power every other level should also have multiple good saves, 4 or more skill points per level, and a broader range of class skills than the fighter.   No full spell progression PrC should be giving more than 1 feat equivalent power every 4 or 5 levels unless there are also some drawbacks and restrictions on those powers.Of course, if you made them balanced, probably no one would ever take them, because if they were balanced the only reason to take them would be RP based, and few good RPers would desire to constrain themselves to something as narrowly defined and cookie cutter as most PrC's.Along with lack of balance, that's my other real problem.   Sure, I agree that PrC's are one way of providing options.   I agree that you certainly coudl use PrC's instead of feat chains.  But is it really the best way?  With a feat chain, I'm not really tying the power to any particular personality or concept.  But, with a PrC that is what I'm doing by default.  It takes an extraordinarily well written PrC to be as broad as a even the narrowest base classes (Barbarian, Paladin, for instance).  The whole 'PrC' spreadsheet sort of character development is to me so anti-RP.   It doesn't encourage real RP.  It encourages stat development, not character development.  Given that I can accomplish the same thing by divorcing the powers from the flavor, and only combining them when necessary, PrC's just don't seem to me to be the best way to approach the problem.</blockquote>

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