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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 2361256" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Yep, there are a lot of those invisible creatures around at 1st level. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>It's a good invocation, but hardly broken.</p><p></p><p>A sorcerer or wizard with a bat familiar also gets a nice invisibility-detector at 1st level. Not as good as the invocation, but good enough.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Charming NPCs is an abuse? Wow! I thought, that's like what charming is for in the first place. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>Besides, there is one <em>really</em> big limitation in the invocation, which <em>Charm Monster</em> does not suffer from... you'll only notice it, if you read the description carefully, tho. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just like all the flying spells/powers.</p><p></p><p>Having it up all day long at moderate levels is pretty huge, of course, combined with the nice ranged attack, but at higher levels its power will cease to impress quickly.</p><p></p><p>I don't even plan to pick that invocation up at all, tho, there are so many nice ones out there (ok 'so many' is a bit of an overstatement, but enough to have trouble choosing the very few you can learn). But who knows... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The only really bad thing about this is, that you can throw them around left and right all day long, which really can be kinda annoying. The invocation itself is not bad, as it requires a much higher level than the spell (and the damage is really next to neglectable as a side effect).</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 2361256, member: 478"] Yep, there are a lot of those invisible creatures around at 1st level. ;) It's a good invocation, but hardly broken. A sorcerer or wizard with a bat familiar also gets a nice invisibility-detector at 1st level. Not as good as the invocation, but good enough. Charming NPCs is an abuse? Wow! I thought, that's like what charming is for in the first place. :p Besides, there is one [i]really[/i] big limitation in the invocation, which [i]Charm Monster[/i] does not suffer from... you'll only notice it, if you read the description carefully, tho. ;) Just like all the flying spells/powers. Having it up all day long at moderate levels is pretty huge, of course, combined with the nice ranged attack, but at higher levels its power will cease to impress quickly. I don't even plan to pick that invocation up at all, tho, there are so many nice ones out there (ok 'so many' is a bit of an overstatement, but enough to have trouble choosing the very few you can learn). But who knows... :) The only really bad thing about this is, that you can throw them around left and right all day long, which really can be kinda annoying. The invocation itself is not bad, as it requires a much higher level than the spell (and the damage is really next to neglectable as a side effect). :) Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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