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Message: <blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 9783069" data-attributes="member: 90374">Im gonna spend some time on my submissions so im not doing an all 5 in one post. Probably take some heat for this but, I think the Terminator trilogy was excellent and deserving of top 5 finish. It had a few problems and peculiarities, but as for consistency and a solid landing I think its all there. The first film was a dystopian sci-fi horror story. The sequel was an action blockbuster. The third film was the crown of the trilogy that rams home the message of fate in a Shakspearean way. All three films are executed well, had good casting, and mostly good writing (T2 is the shakiest, folks often overlook the great writing in T3 which ill cover next.)  Why do folks think its not? The third film suffered alot of those problems and peculiarities. The role of John Connor was recast, Arnold being the terminator again again, and the villain terminator escalation problem. That last problem being that T2 upped the ante on how scary a terminator can be as a foe. Ever since then the franchise has been trying to double down on this concept to its detriment. Finally, the third film was trying so hard to replicate the action of the sequel, that it clouded its overall story and just ended up appearing derivative. If they had shifted the style of the third film to something more dramatic, I think they could have pulled off a historical feat in trilogy film.  Additionally, some folks really liked Dark Fate, however I actually rather loathed it. Mostly because it undoes the original trilogy and its message is that the fated roles of the original characters was just a joke all this time and anybody can do anything. I think T3 had shown that there was plenty of room for Terminator franchise heroes to sit right along with John Connor without just wiping him out. Consider me a sucker for the classics and Gilliam knew what he was doing with time travel fate stories with a film named 12 Monkeys.</blockquote>

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