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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4953034" data-attributes="member: 22779">I would point out that the version you are talking about was released about twenty years after the original version.  In the original, Decker's race was totally not an issue.  Like I said, it's a bit of a ret-con because he's now a huge name director and can get away with it.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But, I would also point out that this fits exactly with what I was saying.  If there is a reason for keeping the race a secret, that's one thing.  That's playing the character.  I would not expect that doppleganger spy to go around announcing his species to all and sundry and it might very well (depending on the group) be a secret from the other players.That's groovy.  And, that's what's going on in Blade Runner.  It's the Big Reveal at the end of the movie.  Great.  Totally NOT what I'm talking about.Pass/Agg snark aside, this was the World's Largest Dungeon.  It was a pretty high hack campaign.  Yet, funnily enough, as Merk points out, I remember clearly the goblin thief at the beginning, the kobold bard, the orc barbarian, even the dwarf cleric that only lasted a couple of sessions at the beginning.Yet, the only reason people knew the elf ninja was an elf, is because I brought it up ((more along the lines of "Where is that "%)$%$(% elf boy? He's late again?" and the fact that after we booted his backside out of the group, I killed his character in a rather gruesome way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />))  The only reason he took elf was for the Dex bonus.In our later Savage Tide game, we had a grippli druid who played up her race all the time - climbing on stuff, riding a climbdog, funny voice.  We had a Lupin fighter that played up his race constantly.  The tiefling scout set himself on fire frequently just because he could.  The only cipher character was my own DMPC Healbot cleric and that's because, well, he was the healbot.  He wasn't there to do anything else.  'sides, he was human.So, yeah, my players are pretty damn good.  The ones that I play with regularly anyway.  They've all made a pretty decent effort to make sure that everyone at the table knows what they are trying to portray.  Great roleplayers all and I'm really lucky to have them.Heh, well, there's always too much of a good thing.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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