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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6091597" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>And I would argue that if you never know the monster is there, then you can't get experience from it. Otherwise, you need to give PC's experience for all the dangerous rooms that they don't enter. That dungeon that they don't enter. They need all the experience points for not entering that one too. And that one over there. And certainly the one they didn't enter there. </p><p></p><p>I will insist that experience points be connected to actual experience. Things that aren't part of the players story aren't part of his experience and thus no experience points are owed. Now, if on the other hand the party encounters a slumbering dragon, and sneaks around it without waking it - for that some experience is owed. Bilbo after all goes 'ding' just for agreeing to walk down into a dragon's lair, and ultimately ends up getting chased out after doing no damage and getting his toes burned. It's the experience that counts. He doesn't get any XP for avoiding the tower of the Necromancer, important though that may be, because it is not part of his experience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6091597, member: 4937"] And I would argue that if you never know the monster is there, then you can't get experience from it. Otherwise, you need to give PC's experience for all the dangerous rooms that they don't enter. That dungeon that they don't enter. They need all the experience points for not entering that one too. And that one over there. And certainly the one they didn't enter there. I will insist that experience points be connected to actual experience. Things that aren't part of the players story aren't part of his experience and thus no experience points are owed. Now, if on the other hand the party encounters a slumbering dragon, and sneaks around it without waking it - for that some experience is owed. Bilbo after all goes 'ding' just for agreeing to walk down into a dragon's lair, and ultimately ends up getting chased out after doing no damage and getting his toes burned. It's the experience that counts. He doesn't get any XP for avoiding the tower of the Necromancer, important though that may be, because it is not part of his experience. [/QUOTE]
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