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Message: <blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6096752" data-attributes="member: 6681948">To counterpoint, I'm not interested in a player whose ideas must be considered automatic successes or the player will get whiny.  You want to ride a giant centipede, great.  But there are riding rules.  And I believe there is middle ground between "your plans are automatically successful" and "checks at ever increasing penalties will be imposed until your plan fails".  If you tell me you don't want to take the time to recruit that posse, well and good -  but don't complain when they don't meet your goals for appropriate spearcarriers - you decided to take the quick and dirty hiring approach, so you got a bunch of guys that showed up rather than a team you may have wanted to assemble.I note the change from singular to plural.  Which is important, what one player wants or what all the players want?  I hear a lot of examples of what you don't want to play through, and no real examples of what you do want to play through.  It seems like you want only one type of scenario, repeated over and over again.  Sounds like a pretty monotonous game to me.  No travel scenes; no NPC interaction scenes.  What else should we cut because they don't interest you?So should I also cut scene back to the city with no travel time so you can raise your posse immediately, or is it OK to suggest you need to get there and back again?  What prevents others from hearing about this recruitment drive and going after the grell themselves?  Is it all right if we suggest your posse needs equipment, mounts and/or food, or are they so much relegated to background colour that they don't even need oxygen?  It seems that anything which delays, modifies, distracts from or deviates from your vision of the result is unacceptable.  I suspect that's not how your games actually play out, but it sounds like it.Well, he can't decide what the townsfolk, your recruits, the desert dwellers or the grell does.  Seems like he doesn't have much left to play besides your character.  So I assume that, in your games, my character who wants only to live out a quiet life running his tea shoppe will fit perfectly, and you will run an entertaining and engaging game without inclusion of anything that falls outside my character's goals.  After all, whatever the player wants, the player gets, right!I doubt your playstyle is nearly as bad as the above makes it out to be - you wouldn`t likely have a group if it were.  But I also think you are massively overstating your case against Celebrim.  Here`s a thought - how about telling us about a great game you played in where the DM did a terrific job without you needing to put him back on the right path.</blockquote>

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