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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6097881" data-attributes="member: 42582">The relevant text from the PHB and the DMG is quoted by me in the BW thread.There is no comparable text in clasic D&D. To the best of my knowledge there is no such text in 2nd ed AD&D or 3E either.Its presence in 4e is not irrelevant tothinking about ho 4e plays, and is intended to play, as a game.Sure. You could introudce "credits as XP" into Traveller, too, if you wanted to (let's say +1 skill for every 10,000 credits gained). That doesn't show that it's not an interesting feature of classic D&D that it has the XP for gp rule, whereas Classic Traveller has no PC advancement rules before the Instruction skill was introduced.Any system can be houseruled, sure. In AD&D we could have a system where every player gets to choose their stats, or wheter the plaeyrs have some sort of auction for stats (they could use their starting gp to play for the acution, perhaps). But AD&D has its PC generation and advancement rules, which give no formal role to other players except the need for the GM to determine training time. And BW has its PC advancement rules which include the trait vote. They look pretty different to me, and I'm pretty sure they produce different play experiences.You seem to be running together the hencmen mechnics, which especialy in AD&D are quite intricate, and the hireling mechanics. There are no intricate mechancis for hiring hirelings (except some of the more esoteric types ilke sages).That strikes me as being the same logic that says I can't tell I won't enjoy a film before I see it. It's a fallacy in both cases. I can project my preferences onto things that I know only by (narrow) description rather than by experience.If someone is not interested in the desert, they're not interested in the desert. If their goal is in the city on the other side of the desert, let's cut to the city.In a system with harder scene-framing, Hussar wouldn't even need to summon a centipede, because the GM could just reframe things in the city. It's only because D&D assumes continuous resolution with no cuts between scenes unmediated via action resolution mechanics that the centipede is needed at all, in order to create an "excuse" within the framework of the action resolution mechanics to make the crossing resolve easily.</blockquote>

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