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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6098273" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>How so? In both examples, either teleporting or redlining travel have exactly the same results - we arrive at the destination in about 30 seconds of table time. In the Grell example, I get a handful of 1st level warriors (or commoners would work too) vs 2-5 creatures from the Summon Monster II table. Pretty much exactly the same thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because it's one scene. Only one scene. No one is saying that this should happen all the time or even often. It's something that comes up once in a blue moon. Your potential loss of fun is not real. You haven't had that fun yet. You might have fun with the scene, you might not. Probably you will, but, it's still only in potentia. OTOH, I will definitely NOT have fun playing out this scene. That's guaranteed. </p><p></p><p>And, in the next scene, we both get to have fun, so, everyone is happy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps. But then again, he's also claimed that he would fold up his books and go home if a player ever did what I claim. So, I don't think I'm taking it to extremes. I mean, he's listed what, seven, eight things that are going to be in that desert? That's an awful lot of roadblocks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It should not make a difference whether it's one player being bored or the group. Sorry, if someone isn't having fun at my table, I'm not having fun as the DM. It drains all the fun out for me. So, why should someone be forced to play through something they have clearly stated that they don't want to, just because they are the only one not enjoying it?</p><p></p><p>Well, perhaps talking to the DM after the game might be a good idea. Thing is, I've just wasted hours of my time waiting for the session to end. Maybe it would be better if I just got up and left and came back when everyone was done? Would that be more productive? BTW, getting shirty means that you get a bit annoyed. Not blowing a gasket or anything like that. Just a bit annoyed.</p><p></p><p>As to your last point about DM's who get in a snit, you're exactly right. I don't play with DM's like that anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6098273, member: 22779"] How so? In both examples, either teleporting or redlining travel have exactly the same results - we arrive at the destination in about 30 seconds of table time. In the Grell example, I get a handful of 1st level warriors (or commoners would work too) vs 2-5 creatures from the Summon Monster II table. Pretty much exactly the same thing. Because it's one scene. Only one scene. No one is saying that this should happen all the time or even often. It's something that comes up once in a blue moon. Your potential loss of fun is not real. You haven't had that fun yet. You might have fun with the scene, you might not. Probably you will, but, it's still only in potentia. OTOH, I will definitely NOT have fun playing out this scene. That's guaranteed. And, in the next scene, we both get to have fun, so, everyone is happy. Perhaps. But then again, he's also claimed that he would fold up his books and go home if a player ever did what I claim. So, I don't think I'm taking it to extremes. I mean, he's listed what, seven, eight things that are going to be in that desert? That's an awful lot of roadblocks. It should not make a difference whether it's one player being bored or the group. Sorry, if someone isn't having fun at my table, I'm not having fun as the DM. It drains all the fun out for me. So, why should someone be forced to play through something they have clearly stated that they don't want to, just because they are the only one not enjoying it? Well, perhaps talking to the DM after the game might be a good idea. Thing is, I've just wasted hours of my time waiting for the session to end. Maybe it would be better if I just got up and left and came back when everyone was done? Would that be more productive? BTW, getting shirty means that you get a bit annoyed. Not blowing a gasket or anything like that. Just a bit annoyed. As to your last point about DM's who get in a snit, you're exactly right. I don't play with DM's like that anymore. [/QUOTE]
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