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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6098912" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>I think a quick look at MHRP's "When to Roll the Dice" section might be illuminating for capturing Hussar's and Celebrim's various table styles and creative agendas:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think we're seeing a lot of Hussar saying 1 and 3; nothing fun, interesting or relevant to the story at hand is at stake by accounting for the time of playing out the days of travel across the desert. </p><p></p><p>Celebrim is countering with the stipulation that 4 and 2 are not true; there is risk, challenge, threat as there is (or may be) something in the way of the PCs during their desert trek (maybe environmental hazards or KoS Bedouins, monsters, ruins, etc). Further, Celebrim doesn't appear to agree with Hussar on 3. Something does indeed happen and it may carry forward an impact on 1 or change it in some way; thus create an interesting part of the story. </p><p></p><p>Hussar then disagrees with him that 3 can be true because he is interested in the current rising climax of 1...not any developments that may arise from a desert trek. So, "yeah something happens...its just not relevant, fun, nor part of the rising climax of 1 that I'm interested in...and if you have to make there be a threat/risk then it is incoherent with the focus of the story and just there to ablate resources...not interested."</p><p></p><p>And back and forth. </p><p></p><p>There is room for both games. It just depends on how much emphasis your table agenda puts on each relevant portion of "Don't roll the dice".</p><p></p><p>Basically the two should not be at the same table together and that should be readily apparent. You should be able to easily communicate that during an intereview or, that notwithstanding, the first session will probably hash out what candid dialogue could not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6098912, member: 6696971"] I think a quick look at MHRP's "When to Roll the Dice" section might be illuminating for capturing Hussar's and Celebrim's various table styles and creative agendas: I think we're seeing a lot of Hussar saying 1 and 3; nothing fun, interesting or relevant to the story at hand is at stake by accounting for the time of playing out the days of travel across the desert. Celebrim is countering with the stipulation that 4 and 2 are not true; there is risk, challenge, threat as there is (or may be) something in the way of the PCs during their desert trek (maybe environmental hazards or KoS Bedouins, monsters, ruins, etc). Further, Celebrim doesn't appear to agree with Hussar on 3. Something does indeed happen and it may carry forward an impact on 1 or change it in some way; thus create an interesting part of the story. Hussar then disagrees with him that 3 can be true because he is interested in the current rising climax of 1...not any developments that may arise from a desert trek. So, "yeah something happens...its just not relevant, fun, nor part of the rising climax of 1 that I'm interested in...and if you have to make there be a threat/risk then it is incoherent with the focus of the story and just there to ablate resources...not interested." And back and forth. There is room for both games. It just depends on how much emphasis your table agenda puts on each relevant portion of "Don't roll the dice". Basically the two should not be at the same table together and that should be readily apparent. You should be able to easily communicate that during an intereview or, that notwithstanding, the first session will probably hash out what candid dialogue could not. [/QUOTE]
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