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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6103312" data-attributes="member: 6668292"><p>Well, that's fine. Honestly. But I still feel like you sidestepped my question; if you have the power to skip a scene, and other players will now have less fun if you skip it (they've been waiting for this scene; it's their favorite part of game; they think it's integral to the place you'll be skipping to; etc.), aren't you explicitly putting your fun ahead of theirs?</p><p></p><p>I know people hate bringing in definitions, but since that's how language works, and I'm trying to clarify, not argue, I won't bring it in, but I'll note that what I looked up doesn't fit what you're describing, as far as I can tell.</p><p></p><p>Again, I have to disagree with it based on the definition I looked up. But, setting (in the sense I'm using it) has no bearing on the action -something can have a lot of setting and be incredibly relevant to the action. Deciding action and pacing seems like a side issue to the actual "setting" bit.</p><p></p><p>Right, I get that you're discussing play style, and I'm not even advocating against it. I'm just questioning the two statements you made. As far as I can tell, you've defined "setting" in a way that I might describe setting as "setting that isn't interesting to me or the current story arch", or something along those lines. Even if I don't agree with your definition, I can still try to understand your meaning.</p><p></p><p>So, while I think I'm a little more clear on the "setting" part, I still have the question about you putting your fun ahead of others. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I probably ask him to stop playing on his cell phone; this is a no-no at the table I run. If I'm playing (and not running) with people who aren't my friends, I probably don't comment on it, but I'd question whether I want to continue to play when this is going on.</p><p></p><p>But, to answer the spirit of the question (I'm I okay if someone is bored and is obviously expressing it), I can only repeat what I've already said; I'll feel for them. I have a lot of empathy for people in general, and especially my friends. I'd try to hurry through the scene, but, yes, I'd want to play it out, if I consider it important. I regret that he doesn't find it interesting, but if it's important (in ways I've expressed in this post and my past two, I believe), then I'd just do my best to hurry through, while getting what I can out of it.</p><p></p><p>Hobgoblin, I think.</p><p></p><p>But anyways, yeah, this leads back to "aren't you rather explicitly putting your fun ahead of mine?" You say you aren't, but I still feel like you are. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do that, I'm just questioning whether or not what you're trying to express is actually the case. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 6103312, member: 6668292"] Well, that's fine. Honestly. But I still feel like you sidestepped my question; if you have the power to skip a scene, and other players will now have less fun if you skip it (they've been waiting for this scene; it's their favorite part of game; they think it's integral to the place you'll be skipping to; etc.), aren't you explicitly putting your fun ahead of theirs? I know people hate bringing in definitions, but since that's how language works, and I'm trying to clarify, not argue, I won't bring it in, but I'll note that what I looked up doesn't fit what you're describing, as far as I can tell. Again, I have to disagree with it based on the definition I looked up. But, setting (in the sense I'm using it) has no bearing on the action -something can have a lot of setting and be incredibly relevant to the action. Deciding action and pacing seems like a side issue to the actual "setting" bit. Right, I get that you're discussing play style, and I'm not even advocating against it. I'm just questioning the two statements you made. As far as I can tell, you've defined "setting" in a way that I might describe setting as "setting that isn't interesting to me or the current story arch", or something along those lines. Even if I don't agree with your definition, I can still try to understand your meaning. So, while I think I'm a little more clear on the "setting" part, I still have the question about you putting your fun ahead of others. I probably ask him to stop playing on his cell phone; this is a no-no at the table I run. If I'm playing (and not running) with people who aren't my friends, I probably don't comment on it, but I'd question whether I want to continue to play when this is going on. But, to answer the spirit of the question (I'm I okay if someone is bored and is obviously expressing it), I can only repeat what I've already said; I'll feel for them. I have a lot of empathy for people in general, and especially my friends. I'd try to hurry through the scene, but, yes, I'd want to play it out, if I consider it important. I regret that he doesn't find it interesting, but if it's important (in ways I've expressed in this post and my past two, I believe), then I'd just do my best to hurry through, while getting what I can out of it. Hobgoblin, I think. But anyways, yeah, this leads back to "aren't you rather explicitly putting your fun ahead of mine?" You say you aren't, but I still feel like you are. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do that, I'm just questioning whether or not what you're trying to express is actually the case. As always, play what you like :) [/QUOTE]
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