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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6105146" data-attributes="member: 6668292"><p>Well, later on in this, you ask if you made a mistake in your post, so I'll reply to your post. I doubt I'll get a reply on my feedback, but at least you'll know what I think.</p><p></p><p>Yes; this is "following the rules of the game", in my mind. If you can't feasibly mount the critter in time to get use of it, make the Ride checks to stay on it, hold onto it, if it's not actually fast enough to outrun everything (it's significantly slower than horses), etc., then using it without those checks is fine, but so is following the rules. Expecting your plan to bypass the rules isn't reasonable to expect at every table, while it's okay at some.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure either. He might've been saying that he'd make things relevant if they came up, in the desert. If that's the case, then there'd be no problem with a Teleport spell.</p><p></p><p>I thought Celebrim explicitly said that it's valid to roll skills to get the best result with the recruitment process? If so, there'd be no amount of significant table time recruiting them.</p><p></p><p>I think others have mentioned your tendency to frame things as "players always have great intentions and skill, and GMs always have terrible intentions and skill", and this makes me want to agree -again- with that assessment.</p><p></p><p>I think you're looking at this from a Bill O'Reilly "yes or no" point of view, rather than looking at it as the fairly complex issue that it is. It's not terribly complicated, but there are nuances in the discussion.</p><p> </p><p>I've said why I, as a player, like playing out scenes I'm not invested in yet (like the desert), though I've explicitly said that's just a play style thing. If you've missed that, sorry.</p><p></p><p>But, you've also said that you should be able to skip scenes, if honestly and truly that bored. That's cool, but that will include scenes that other players are enjoying, right? That's what I brought up, and asked how you reconciled that with your "I don't put my fun ahead of theirs" statement. Because, if you do think you should be able to skip those scenes, it seems like you explicitly do.</p><p></p><p>But, that's not really what you asked for. You want an example, I guess? If that's the case, let me know. I've given one already that I can alter slightly, and it'll fit. I assume your objection will fade as soon as an example is given? As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 6105146, member: 6668292"] Well, later on in this, you ask if you made a mistake in your post, so I'll reply to your post. I doubt I'll get a reply on my feedback, but at least you'll know what I think. Yes; this is "following the rules of the game", in my mind. If you can't feasibly mount the critter in time to get use of it, make the Ride checks to stay on it, hold onto it, if it's not actually fast enough to outrun everything (it's significantly slower than horses), etc., then using it without those checks is fine, but so is following the rules. Expecting your plan to bypass the rules isn't reasonable to expect at every table, while it's okay at some. I'm not sure either. He might've been saying that he'd make things relevant if they came up, in the desert. If that's the case, then there'd be no problem with a Teleport spell. I thought Celebrim explicitly said that it's valid to roll skills to get the best result with the recruitment process? If so, there'd be no amount of significant table time recruiting them. I think others have mentioned your tendency to frame things as "players always have great intentions and skill, and GMs always have terrible intentions and skill", and this makes me want to agree -again- with that assessment. I think you're looking at this from a Bill O'Reilly "yes or no" point of view, rather than looking at it as the fairly complex issue that it is. It's not terribly complicated, but there are nuances in the discussion. I've said why I, as a player, like playing out scenes I'm not invested in yet (like the desert), though I've explicitly said that's just a play style thing. If you've missed that, sorry. But, you've also said that you should be able to skip scenes, if honestly and truly that bored. That's cool, but that will include scenes that other players are enjoying, right? That's what I brought up, and asked how you reconciled that with your "I don't put my fun ahead of theirs" statement. Because, if you do think you should be able to skip those scenes, it seems like you explicitly do. But, that's not really what you asked for. You want an example, I guess? If that's the case, let me know. I've given one already that I can alter slightly, and it'll fit. I assume your objection will fade as soon as an example is given? As always, play what you like :) [/QUOTE]
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