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<blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 6107152" data-attributes="member: 6678119"><p>I think I might have a way for you and Hussar to relate, if I might use that bit of text.</p><p></p><p>In his eyes, he's not particularly keen on doing the life story of those mercs. And due to lack of wanting to interact on that level, it's possible or even probable that he'd be bad at hiring them due to lack of interest (and possibly presence of annoyance). To him, that's railroady since, among other things, he's almost certainly going to be better at the combat than the RP because he's far and away more interested in the combat. While it's not handwaving the stuff he's good at, it's certainly delaying it. Likewise, he could feel jerked around by DM whim by unknowingly hiring a criminal and then getting arrested and interrogated. Sure, it could have happened, but the chances that it's going to happen to him and his party are surely such that they shouldn't have to worry about it randomly happening. It feels gamey to him that it happened in the first place. If he wants to control his character such that the desert isn't a problem (and has the potential to do so) then he somewhat expects that he'll be able to do it.</p><p></p><p>Admittedly there are some differences, but there's similarities. Most of your quibbles are about losing control of your character. One of your primary mode of fun is that you can still keep control of your character. Hussar, however, seems to have more quibbles with the way things happen in the game both for his character and for him on a meta level. He wants to know that the choices he makes can and will be seen through to whatever destination. And sometimes those choices are "I choose to ignore/fast forward this" much like skipping pages in a book. You don't want your character to be tied down by "the game", and he doesn't want himself to be tied down by the game seemingly not being able to handle the scene shift he'd like. See the patterns and relations?</p><p></p><p>Is that an accurate statement for both of you, Celebrim and Hussar? Is there anything one of you might change or clarify about how I've characterized you? I apologize if I haven't represented you accurately.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To Hussar, the fact that the DM acknowledges "there could be this circumstance" means there's a good chance it's going to come up. The reasoning behind that, as far as I can tell, is by acknowledging it the DM is more likely to grow attached to it and then decide to try it out. Call it a "pet project" or something similar. And as is often seen, when one person gets a pet project going they can become blind to opposition to it before implementation, and then when it's finally revealed there's a lot of butting heads.</p><p></p><p>I think one of the things Hussar doesn't like about simulationist games is that they can often become pet projects which the DM isn't willing to let go of or change. Is that accurate to your opinions, @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=22779" target="_blank">Hussar</a></u></strong></em> ? I kind of have the same worries too at times.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jackinthegreen, post: 6107152, member: 6678119"] I think I might have a way for you and Hussar to relate, if I might use that bit of text. In his eyes, he's not particularly keen on doing the life story of those mercs. And due to lack of wanting to interact on that level, it's possible or even probable that he'd be bad at hiring them due to lack of interest (and possibly presence of annoyance). To him, that's railroady since, among other things, he's almost certainly going to be better at the combat than the RP because he's far and away more interested in the combat. While it's not handwaving the stuff he's good at, it's certainly delaying it. Likewise, he could feel jerked around by DM whim by unknowingly hiring a criminal and then getting arrested and interrogated. Sure, it could have happened, but the chances that it's going to happen to him and his party are surely such that they shouldn't have to worry about it randomly happening. It feels gamey to him that it happened in the first place. If he wants to control his character such that the desert isn't a problem (and has the potential to do so) then he somewhat expects that he'll be able to do it. Admittedly there are some differences, but there's similarities. Most of your quibbles are about losing control of your character. One of your primary mode of fun is that you can still keep control of your character. Hussar, however, seems to have more quibbles with the way things happen in the game both for his character and for him on a meta level. He wants to know that the choices he makes can and will be seen through to whatever destination. And sometimes those choices are "I choose to ignore/fast forward this" much like skipping pages in a book. You don't want your character to be tied down by "the game", and he doesn't want himself to be tied down by the game seemingly not being able to handle the scene shift he'd like. See the patterns and relations? Is that an accurate statement for both of you, Celebrim and Hussar? Is there anything one of you might change or clarify about how I've characterized you? I apologize if I haven't represented you accurately. To Hussar, the fact that the DM acknowledges "there could be this circumstance" means there's a good chance it's going to come up. The reasoning behind that, as far as I can tell, is by acknowledging it the DM is more likely to grow attached to it and then decide to try it out. Call it a "pet project" or something similar. And as is often seen, when one person gets a pet project going they can become blind to opposition to it before implementation, and then when it's finally revealed there's a lot of butting heads. I think one of the things Hussar doesn't like about simulationist games is that they can often become pet projects which the DM isn't willing to let go of or change. Is that accurate to your opinions, @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=22779"]Hussar[/URL][/U][/B][/I] ? I kind of have the same worries too at times. [/QUOTE]
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