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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6108397" data-attributes="member: 42582">Likewise to all of that in my own case. I quickly discovered that I didn't enjoy Gygaxian D&D and (whether because of that or independently) wasn't particularly good at running it. For me Oriental Adventures in 1986 started to make clear an alternative pathway.I've made some comments upthread about the GMs who did the desert stuff and the hireling stuff you've complained about perhaps being influenced by mid-to-late 80s style advice along the lines of "combat bad, GM narration and "immersion" good and the key to "true" RPGing". Do you think there's any plausibility in my diagnosis?</blockquote>