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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6109515" data-attributes="member: 6668292">I don't think I am.  I've talked extensively about complications; obviously, which almost exclusively appeals to the players, not to the PCs. I'm keeping the in-game and the meta-game separate.Exactly. Which means the desert can be quite fun, potentially.Well, the desert isn't related necessarily. This seems to be a sticking point for this conversation.Then again, you're having the city besieged. That has nothing to do with Hussar's goal which is inside the city. Both are merely roadblocks put in the way, and both can be made relevant or kept separate from whatever the goal in the city is. The difference is in backdrop.Based on what Hussar has said in this thread, I disagree. Hussar wants to be in the city. He wants to be dealing with the goal inside, not stopped from getting inside. That's (now) why he doesn't like the desert. Before it was just tedium, but it seems like it's boiled down to "I want to deal with my goal, and not deal with stuff unrelated to it (or some variation of this... it's been hard to pin down)". If that's the case, then the city is just as much an unrelated roadblock as the desert. It's related to the city, but that's just "setting". The city is not "plot", as Hussar described it. Only his goal within the city is.Well, that's a moving target depending on the table. Obviously, "the players want to engage with it = good" makes sense to me.Well, yes, but that's an entirely different situation. This one is "on the way to meet with this family, we're ambushed by their enemies." The other is "on the way to our goal, something got in our way, stopping us from getting there." The difference is because the siege may have absolutely nothing to do with the goal in the city. If, say, the siege was there to obtain the same object, or whatever, then now it's related. But, the desert can be related in the same manner (though different means). Otherwise, both are unrelated to the goal. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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