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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6111801" data-attributes="member: 4937">Except, I've just set up the opening scene of Don Quixote.Maybe you should stop assuming that you are outsmarting me or something.  I haven't reversed my position on anything.  I repeat, I haven't reversed my position on anything.   You didn't 'get me'.  You aren't 'catching me in a contridiction'.  I didn't 'fall into to your trap'.  This whole jump out of the box and yell 'gotcha thing' is getting really old.  But if you really want to play that game, we'll have to take it elsewhere.  Because before I can really get my weapons even honed, the mods are going to yell at me about it.I just set up the scene where the DM thinks the belief is ridiculous and exherted his authority to create it, the same scene that pemerton says is 'doing it wrong', and the same scene you continue to ridicule me for as an example of me 'not getting it'.Maybe I'm not the one that doesn't get it.Take my advice and just answer my questions next time instead of trying to make me look bad.No, to prove "That's ridiculous!" wasn't doing it wrong, I've set up the opening scene of Don Quixote.  The belief is central to the idea of the entire scene, but that doesn't really mean much, because the PC is about to get tossed out into the sewage in the street as a figure of comic fun and tilting at windmills may not be what he thought we was signing up for.Yep, you are really pulling one on that dumb old Celebrim.  Doesn't take much of a mind to bowl that one over.  His intellect is as keen as a rusty sword, and his perception is as clouded as a fun house mirror.Your profound understanding of mechanics leaves me in awe.</blockquote>

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