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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6114150" data-attributes="member: 6681948"><p>I (and I think Celebrim) am saying that this belief requires context to be meaningful. That doesn't mean we must know whether it is true, but we must know what would determine it to be true. That requires backstory. The setting could include any definition, but we also need to know what the player's definition is, and what the player would consider successful resolution. All of that sets backsory in the campaign.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the player expects one of King Arthur or King Conan and you provide the other, will he be happy? Someone earlier mentioned Jesus of Nazareth - do you think the player who wrote "True King of the Land" envisions his character's agonizing death to be a successful resolution of his belief? If he is expecting an external struggle for the throne to feature prominently, and the issue is resolved with a roll by the character who, while seaching for proof of his true lineage, is trapped by a cave-in with that absolute proof, but can never show it to anyone else, will he view that as a suitable end? "You rolled high enough to dictate that this proves absolutely you are the One True King of the Land - you suffocate in full satisfaction that your belief was correct" is, in fact, a resolution where the belief was proven 100% correct, so the player should be ecstatic, right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Whereas I would say that is not a belief, but a manifestation of a belief.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6114150, member: 6681948"] I (and I think Celebrim) am saying that this belief requires context to be meaningful. That doesn't mean we must know whether it is true, but we must know what would determine it to be true. That requires backstory. The setting could include any definition, but we also need to know what the player's definition is, and what the player would consider successful resolution. All of that sets backsory in the campaign. If the player expects one of King Arthur or King Conan and you provide the other, will he be happy? Someone earlier mentioned Jesus of Nazareth - do you think the player who wrote "True King of the Land" envisions his character's agonizing death to be a successful resolution of his belief? If he is expecting an external struggle for the throne to feature prominently, and the issue is resolved with a roll by the character who, while seaching for proof of his true lineage, is trapped by a cave-in with that absolute proof, but can never show it to anyone else, will he view that as a suitable end? "You rolled high enough to dictate that this proves absolutely you are the One True King of the Land - you suffocate in full satisfaction that your belief was correct" is, in fact, a resolution where the belief was proven 100% correct, so the player should be ecstatic, right? Whereas I would say that is not a belief, but a manifestation of a belief. [/QUOTE]
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