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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6116096" data-attributes="member: 6668292">Disagree.This is the players having the ability to frame scenes. At least, from the example you used earlier in the thread, where the PC rolled his secret caverns skill, or whatever, to make there be a chance of secret caverns. The player has the ability to say "and this scene has This in it," and then there's This in it.If, however, the players only act on what the GM gives them (traditional D&D), then while you can have a very PC-driven game, you still have players who are "waiting for the GM to frame the scenes that signal the connection of what is happening to the players' goals."I know. I quoted that bit.This depends entirely on what the PCs encounter in the desert.No, the consequence would be the encounter while crossing it. If there are no complications, then it's skipped, and it's not really a consequence. The encounter (whatever it is) can be set up in such a way that it directly relates to PC and player goals, and puts pressure on them. Hussar has denied that the desert can really be relevant. I disagree.I understand this bit from Hussar. He's not concerned with that stuff. It's small, not dramatic for him, not exciting for him. I get that. I don't get how he can say that nothing in the desert can be "too terribly relevant", though.The entire time I've participated in this thread, you realize that I have not once argued that he play out the desert as environmental hazard in a purely procedural way, right? I've never advocated for exploratory play of the desert, wandering around in it until something happens, or even five minutes of table time spent on narration of it. I've brought up the sandstorm (to have an effect inside the city), some nomads / refugees / mercenaries, etc., but never "hot sun and no water; oh, and figure out your weight and Ride checks."I'm debating a subset of this conversation. I'm not saying that Hussar is wrong to skip that stuff. That's play style. That differs, and that's fine. I accept his play style on the siege vs. desert is different when it comes to relevancy, too, but I can't understand it, because the reasons I've been given do not make sense. And that's what I'm trying to figure out.Just a side not, but the centipede should probably be able to carry them. It's X6 since it has at least 4 legs, so up to about 1,560 lb. in a heavy load. Of course, the summoning duration, Ride checks, etc. are still potentially obstacles by the rules, still. If you're handwaving those, I'm guessing you're handwaving carrying capacity. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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