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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Libramarian" data-source="post: 6117469" data-attributes="member: 6688858">I bring this up because I'm searching for an explanation of why the other side of the convo has been so slow on the uptake of your explanation of how the city is more important to the narrative of the game than the desert...Feels to me like they're being nitpicky and contrarian about that because they're trying to defend this 3e DM from the implication that he's a bad DM, rather than engage with you on the more abstract question of whether or not a group could have an agreed upon style of play where it's reasonable to expect the DM to skip over the desert.I don't think they're a bad DM because when you're in gam/sim sandbox mode (which I feel is the default 3e mode), skipping over the desert feels like cheating, so it puts the DM in a bad position to ask them to do that. Unless you explain the goal of scene-framing really well, which I don't think Hussar was able to do at the time. I think that's more important than whether or not he was polite or impolite.But regarding the more abstract question about the coherence and validity of the corresponding agenda/playstyle I'm with you and I think you have made some very clear posts on that subject.</blockquote>