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<blockquote data-quote="sheadunne" data-source="post: 6120145" data-attributes="member: 27570"><p>I'm not arguing with your discussion of setting and story, but plot isn't connected to setting or story. Plot is the series of events that leads to a conclusion. In a typical D&D game, plot may not be a connected series of events (unless you're running a structured AP for instance). Although usually the plot ends up making itself known by the end.</p><p></p><p>The plot of the matrix, overthrow tyranny, is a universal plot that has existed since storytelling began. What's connected in the retelling of the matrix is the setting and story. You can't tell the same story of the matrix in 14th Italy, but you can certainly have a story with the same plot, which is overthrowing tyranny (ie control).</p><p></p><p>I just wanted to clarify here. </p><p></p><p>Setting - Where the story takes place</p><p>Story - The description of the events</p><p>Plot - The is the connection of events leading to a conclusion</p><p></p><p>In context of D&D each encounter in a game is an event connected to the plot (although that plot might not be known at the time of the event, depending on play style). You can run the same event in any setting, which won't change the plot, but it will change the story told. Which is why people can play the same D&D module (with the same plot) and have completely different play experiences (stories), and have it run in different locations (settings). </p><p></p><p>Anyway, your description of the story/setting connection is right on. </p><p></p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sheadunne, post: 6120145, member: 27570"] I'm not arguing with your discussion of setting and story, but plot isn't connected to setting or story. Plot is the series of events that leads to a conclusion. In a typical D&D game, plot may not be a connected series of events (unless you're running a structured AP for instance). Although usually the plot ends up making itself known by the end. The plot of the matrix, overthrow tyranny, is a universal plot that has existed since storytelling began. What's connected in the retelling of the matrix is the setting and story. You can't tell the same story of the matrix in 14th Italy, but you can certainly have a story with the same plot, which is overthrowing tyranny (ie control). I just wanted to clarify here. Setting - Where the story takes place Story - The description of the events Plot - The is the connection of events leading to a conclusion In context of D&D each encounter in a game is an event connected to the plot (although that plot might not be known at the time of the event, depending on play style). You can run the same event in any setting, which won't change the plot, but it will change the story told. Which is why people can play the same D&D module (with the same plot) and have completely different play experiences (stories), and have it run in different locations (settings). Anyway, your description of the story/setting connection is right on. Cheers [/QUOTE]
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