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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6120410" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>[MENTION=4937]Celebrim[/MENTION] - I'd point out that the plot of Star Wars is lifted, virtually verbatim from a Kurosawa movie set in feudal Japan. So, it's not like the plot of Star Wars is terribly linked to the setting.</p><p></p><p>Take this example then, stop me if you've heard this plot before:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">A group of companions travel to somewhere somewhat remote and discover something mysterious. Shortly after the discovery, a horrible something begins killing the companions one by one until the final survivor, typically a young, pretty, white woman, defeats the horrible something and escapes back to civilization.</p><p></p><p>Now, I've just outlined the plot of many horror movies for the past fifty years. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> From The Creature from the Black Lagoon to Alien to Friday the 13th, the plot is pretty much the same. Change the spaceship into a campground and you've changed Alien into Friday the 13th. </p><p></p><p>So, no, plot is not terribly tied to setting.</p><p></p><p>I would say the opposite is true though. Setting is tied to plot. As you say, Celebrim, you cannot have hackers in 14th century Italy. So, a story featuring hackers won't be set in somewhere where you can't have hackers. But, that's setting in service to plot. If I'm writing a man vs nature story, I'm probably going to set it somewhere where nature is kinda dangerous. A golf course likely isn't going to cut it as well as a mountain.</p><p></p><p>Which answers why the city is set in the desert. We wanted a desert city for the feel and tone. So, the city is in the desert. Doesn't mean that the desert is particularly important to the plot. It might be important for other reasons - such as tone and theme, but plot? Not so much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6120410, member: 22779"] [MENTION=4937]Celebrim[/MENTION] - I'd point out that the plot of Star Wars is lifted, virtually verbatim from a Kurosawa movie set in feudal Japan. So, it's not like the plot of Star Wars is terribly linked to the setting. Take this example then, stop me if you've heard this plot before: [indent]A group of companions travel to somewhere somewhat remote and discover something mysterious. Shortly after the discovery, a horrible something begins killing the companions one by one until the final survivor, typically a young, pretty, white woman, defeats the horrible something and escapes back to civilization.[/indent] Now, I've just outlined the plot of many horror movies for the past fifty years. :D From The Creature from the Black Lagoon to Alien to Friday the 13th, the plot is pretty much the same. Change the spaceship into a campground and you've changed Alien into Friday the 13th. So, no, plot is not terribly tied to setting. I would say the opposite is true though. Setting is tied to plot. As you say, Celebrim, you cannot have hackers in 14th century Italy. So, a story featuring hackers won't be set in somewhere where you can't have hackers. But, that's setting in service to plot. If I'm writing a man vs nature story, I'm probably going to set it somewhere where nature is kinda dangerous. A golf course likely isn't going to cut it as well as a mountain. Which answers why the city is set in the desert. We wanted a desert city for the feel and tone. So, the city is in the desert. Doesn't mean that the desert is particularly important to the plot. It might be important for other reasons - such as tone and theme, but plot? Not so much. [/QUOTE]
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